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Jan 12, 2023 23:32
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Thank you for your answer. We did initially meet through the site as papa and sugar baby, but afterward we dated as boyfriend and girlfriend, with money still changing hands.
When I searched on Google, I found that:
- Since the money and gifts are considered gifts rather than loans, they don’t have to be returned.
- Because I didn’t lie to obtain a large sum of money, and everything was given with both parties’ agreement, there’s no obligation to return it.
He seems mentally unstable, so while it’s not impossible that he might sue, would the case be dropped if the circumstances were as described above? If I voluntarily came forward, would I have a chance of winning? Thinking about attorney’s fees and everything else is such a hassle.
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I’m Zuiki, a male member.
Based solely on the facts you’ve provided, I don’t think this amounts to fraud, either civilly or criminally. The part about going through a lawyer is most likely just an empty bluff. I don’t think you need to worry that much.
I’m not a legal professional, so if you’re still really concerned, you could consult your local bar association. However, I don’t think this rises to that level.
It’s true that there are people who fabricate facts and file civil lawsuits purely to harass someone, and lawyers who help them do it. But the chances of that happening are quite low. Even if it did, the most you’d probably receive would be a certified letter.
In any case, if they take some action—whether sending a certified letter or filing a civil lawsuit—you could respond along these lines:
“My relationship with my former papa was a papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) arrangement based on the voluntary consent of both parties, and I believe it was contrary to public order and morals and therefore not entitled to legal protection!!!!”
That should be sufficient, in my opinion.
This is just my personal view.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Anyone who can actually afford to hire a lawyer can consult one whenever necessary and retain one in any situation, so there’s no need to go out of their way to say they’ll “involve a lawyer.”
A man who makes a big deal out of “putting a lawyer between you” over something this trivial probably couldn’t afford to hire one anyway.
Even if a lawyer contacts you, you can simply ignore it. Any reputable lawyer wouldn’t take the case seriously.
Even if you were talked into being sued by one of those online lawyers who take cases with no retainer—happily pursuing lawsuits they have no chance of winning—the matter is simple enough that you should be fine as long as you appear in court yourself. Unless the other side can provide clear proof, there’s no way they can win.
If, by some chance, you lose at the first trial, I think you can hire a lawyer then. That should be enough. I don’t think you need to agree to a settlement either. Judges may encourage settlements to improve their performance figures, but it’s fine to ignore that.
Also, judges are fair and tend to favor the weaker party, so the tougher the other side appears, the more likely the judge may be to sympathize with you. They’ll explain things kindly even if you don’t have a lawyer, so I don’t think you need to be that afraid of going to court.
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
If you didn’t take out student loans, then it should be fine as long as you’re not lying about needing the money to repay them.
If you have any LINE messages that work in your favor, save them instead of deleting them.
Other
Based on what you’ve written, it doesn’t seem likely that the questioner would lose.
That said, in situations like this, if the man has the financial means, he may hire a lawyer and file a lawsuit anyway, using whatever argument he can come up with, even knowing he’ll probably lose. It would be a civil claim for damages.
He wouldn’t necessarily expect to win, and therefore probably couldn’t get any money from you. However, he may believe he can still cause you harm by forcing you to hire a lawyer and incur legal fees to respond to the lawsuit.
With that in mind, you should consult a lawyer as soon as possible. This isn’t really something to seek advice about in this Q&A forum.