Tips Dec 17, 2022 09:32

I found an article online that said the following:

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**Monthly arrangements don’t last! With papa-katsu, pay-per-meeting is best.** 1) They create financial and emotional pressure for the man (papa). 2) He gets tired of the woman’s body and sex(笑)—in cases of papa-katsu involving an adult relationship (intimate). He may start thinking, deep down, “I’m already tired of her body and sex, so why do I have to keep paying her ¥200,000 every month?” 4) The relationship becomes habitual and starts to feel stale. I’ve been doing papa-katsu for six years now. Based on my own experience, I’ve had two arrangements—both platonic—that lasted five and three years, even though we met pay-per-meeting or irregularly. So I thought the article might actually be right. The reason is that I’ve recently become close with a papa I’ve been seeing for three months, and now that we’ve developed a deeper relationship, he asked me what I would like to receive as an allowance going forward. I’m not sure how to respond. Until now, I’ve always just gone along with what the other person offered, so I’ve never asked for a monthly arrangement or a higher allowance. He told me I could decide, but how should I approach it if I want this to last for a long time? I do like him, and I want to feel that he values me. Of course, receiving more would be preferable. But I feel awkward bringing up a specific amount or asking about his budget, and I have no idea what he has in mind.
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I like my papa, and I want to feel that he appreciates me. Of course, I’m always happy to receive a generous allowance, but I feel awkward bringing up an amount or asking about his budget myself. I think you should just tell him exactly that.
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A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
It’s unusual for a papa (a male supporter) to ask after three months what you’d like to do about your allowance going forward. You seem to be wondering whether you can ask for more, but he may actually be thinking about reducing it. In general, proposing an increase is more likely to make him say goodbye. I think the best kind of papa is one who keeps the allowance unchanged. As for a monthly arrangement, it probably won’t work unless the man is quite financially well-off or is the type to focus on just one woman. I also think proposing a monthly arrangement before you have a clear idea of his financial situation is risky.
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I’ve had my share of failures too, but basically, I’ve found that things tend to work out best when I stick as closely as possible to what we agreed on at the beginning. Here are some examples of my mistakes: 1. A woman I was seeing consistently three times a month for a pay-per-meeting allowance of 80,000 yen. When I changed it to a monthly arrangement of 250,000 yen in our third month, she suddenly only made time to see me once that month. 2. A woman whose allowance was 60,000 yen per meeting asked, “Could you make it 70,000?” I agreed, but then she started asking me to pay for her moving expenses and other things, which completely turned me off. 3. I liked a woman whose initial terms were dinner only for 80,000 yen per meeting, so I told her I’d still give her 80,000 yen even if we only had dinner. Starting the following month, she was on her period for about three weeks every month. (I know some women have medical conditions that make their periods unusually long, but for several months before that, there had been no such issue at all—and then it happened right at that moment… come on.) There have been various other things like that, and I’ve come to believe that it’s best to stick to what was decided at the start. By the way, I hit it off with the woman I’m currently seeing from the day we met. We started seeing each other after deciding that I would give her the amount for an adult relationship, regardless of whether we actually had one. We’ve been meeting more often without intimacy, but I’m genuinely having a great time, so I don’t feel any strange stress about it. I think the relationship starts to become unhealthy the moment either person begins thinking, “How can I get the best deal?”
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I think it would be best to talk to your papa directly about it. I’ve never had a monthly-arrangement papa, so it’s something I’ve always been interested in. I imagine there’s a sense of security in knowing you’ll receive an allowance every month. At the same time, I also feel that relying on it too much wouldn’t be ideal. Which option is better depends on you and your papa. Since he seems like the kind of papa who would listen to your opinions, I think being honest about how you feel and discussing it together could help deepen your relationship—and might even lead to an increased allowance.
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I was curious why you skipped number three, but I think how a monthly arrangement works out varies from person to person. With a monthly arrangement, you may both feel valued and cared for, or the stability it provides may make you both take each other for granted. Having a monthly arrangement might mean fewer opportunities to discuss the allowance, which could lead to misunderstandings—or it might not. I think it would be best to say the last part just as you wrote it: “I do like my papa, and I want to feel that he values me. Of course, I wouldn’t complain about receiving more. But I feel awkward bringing up an amount myself or asking about his budget, and I don’t know what he has in mind.” What matters isn’t how other people handle things, but discussing where you can both reach an agreement that feels right. By the way, you were still in your twenties early this morning, weren’t you? Was it your birthday?
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