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Dec 14, 2022 23:42
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Last month, I went on my first trip with my papa. He invited me, and since it was my first papa-katsu trip, I was really looking forward to it—but is this just how it is? It was boring and absolutely terrible.
Maybe because my 70-year-old papa rearranged his work schedule and disrupted his usual routine for the trip, he became unwell. He still came on the trip, but at the hotel he only:
1. Slept in bed the entire time
2. Talked endlessly, while I did nothing but listen
3. Took baths, since the room had an open-air bath (the view was just a small courtyard)
4. Touched me
Those were the only four things he did at the hotel. Since he wasn’t feeling well, I tried to be considerate and gave him massages. With nothing to do except stay cooped up in the room, I took baths, stretched, and did everything I could to find ways to enjoy myself and avoid putting him in a bad mood.
Then, after he had finished talking and felt satisfied, he suddenly asked, “Do you want to go to the spa?” It was already 45 minutes before dinner. There was no way we could go by then. I was furious—tell me earlier, or make a reservation!
My papa has always been bad at planning trips, so I held back from saying what I wanted to do, but I really wanted to go to the hotel spa. The hotel was upper-middle range. I’d eaten there before but had never stayed overnight, and although it had both a spa and a pool, I couldn’t experience either one.
I read one of Joe’s columns about a papa-katsu woman who went on a trip and casually went to the spa for a massage. I was honestly so jealous.
Then, perhaps because he felt a little better that night, he started touching me while I was asleep. That’s part of my role, so I didn’t mind, but then he tried to go all the way without protection, which was awful. I figured he’d lose interest halfway through anyway, so I didn’t resist—and sure enough, he ended up unable to continue.
At breakfast, perhaps because there were a lot of people in the dining area, he finished eating and promptly returned to the room, leaving me there alone.
After we left the hotel, he said he’d buy me a souvenir. I said I wanted a wallet, but he took me to an outlet mall with the brand of jacket he wanted to buy. Not a department store?!
There was nothing from the brands or stores I wanted, and the only thing he bought me was a pair of shoes that cost 10,000 yen at the outlet. He said we should look for a wallet, but there was no way I was going to find one at an outlet mall.
I have children, so traveling had never been possible for me. This trip only happened because I arranged for my children and parents to go on a trip while I was away overnight. I’d always dreamed of taking a trip with my papa. I casually mentioned this to him, but he ignored it.
My usual pay-per-meeting allowance is 50,000 yen, but for the trip he gave me 100,000 yen. However, I gave 80,000 yen to my parents for their travel expenses, leaving me with only 20,000 yen and the shoes.
I thought that having happy memories with my papa would make it worthwhile, so I asked my parents to help and agreed to the allowance he had originally offered—50,000 yen. In other words, I initially agreed to go even though I would have ended up losing money. So I’m genuinely grateful that he put 100,000 yen in the envelope.
But it would have been much less stressful—and I would have kept the full 50,000 yen—if we had just met normally.
I understand that I should be grateful simply because he paid for the hotel and took me on the trip, and I realize that part of the reason I’m angry is that I expected too much. But is this what trips with a papa are usually like?
If you’ve been on a trip with your papa, please tell me how you spent your time.
9 answers
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
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You really did your best, questioner. I guess that’s what happens with a papa who isn’t used to this.
If there’s a next time, let’s decide the entire schedule ourselves—with terms in the five-figure range, including the spa treatment, of course.
I’ve taken 100 papa-katsu trips, but taking two girls along sounds nice too.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
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> Wait, not a department store?!
That’s a shame…
If it had been on a trip, you could have let loose and enjoyed places where you’d normally have to be mindful in case you ran into someone you knew…
For the man as well, it can be a fun opportunity to significantly close the distance between you. Once you’re back, things can feel much more natural locally, and it’s also a chance to make some great memories.
It’s a shame, especially since it was supposed to be an opportunity packed with things for the woman to enjoy—eating whatever she wanted, going wherever she wanted, and doing whatever she wanted together, without having to worry about the time.
That said,
> I have children.
You also need to recognize that you can’t travel whenever you want anymore, and that it may be difficult to make trips happen. From the papa’s perspective, he can simply choose someone without those kinds of restrictions.
Other
What a shame about the trip you’d been looking forward to. I can understand how disappointing that must have been.
But couldn’t you have imagined beforehand what it might be like to travel with that man? Regular dates are shorter than a trip, of course, but you can usually get a general sense of whether someone is considerate and whether you’re physically compatible.
Naturally, spending a long time together on a trip can reveal unexpected sides of someone. But to be honest, I think the main reason things went wrong was that you were too focused on the fact that you could go on a trip through papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), without thinking carefully enough about who you were going with.
I’ve also been on a hot-spring trip with the woman I’m currently seeing.
We went for a drive, took a bath together in our room, had a meal in the room, and while I went to read in the hotel’s reading room, she had a spa treatment. Then we went back to the room and had sex. After that, since we both wanted to sleep alone in our own beds, we slept in separate rooms...
That was more or less how it went.
Because we already share a certain degree of understanding about each other’s thoughts and values, we’re able to strike a good balance between doing things together and spending time separately. It makes things comfortable.
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
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I’ve never traveled with a dating partner, but unfortunately, in your case, it sounds like the problem was caused by a lack of communication.
If you travel together again, I recommend planning the trip together in advance.
You wanted to go to the hotel spa—but what did the man want to do?
Rather than focusing only on your own preferences, talk about what you both want to do and try to make those plans happen together. I think that would make the trip more enjoyable.
Other
I’m going to Okinawa for a golf trip over New Year’s. I can’t wait.
My favorite papa (a male supporter) is the same age as the questioner’s papa (though he’s not from Okinawa), but he’s far more active than your average worn-out man in his 40s, and he’s amazing in bed too.
You were looking forward to the trip because he was that kind of papa, but the disappointing trip left you disillusioned, didn’t it?
That’s a classic travel experience.
Marika
Other
This is long.
Before COVID, I went on a mystery trip with one of my papas. He kept the destination secret until right before we left as a surprise.
He picked me up at home in his car, and I didn’t find out where we were going until we got to Haneda. It was a hot-spring town I’d never visited before, so I was absolutely thrilled.
It was my first trip with a papa, so we were both pretty excited and enjoyed a classic date itinerary—night views, the usual sightseeing spots, delicious food, and a luxurious hot-spring inn.
We spent the time like an ordinary couple, and what stood out most was that we had sex about 180 times over three days and two nights, haha.
It was so much fun that we still reminisce about it together, but unfortunately, his wife started monitoring him much more closely after that, so traveling together became difficult.
With another papa, I started with a four-day, three-night trip to Guam before COVID—my first experience at an overseas resort. We’ve also spent five nights in Hakata, and because we became especially close last year and this year, we’ve taken two nine-night trips to Okinawa.
We have sex about once every two days, but he’s such a handsome older guy that just looking at his muscles makes my heart race. He’s really cool.
In Okinawa, we mostly relaxed by the hotel pool and ate delicious local food. I also read all of One Piece by the pool. Bringing a Kindle really helps.
I’m not particularly interested in spas, so we haven’t gone to any. I was happy that he bought me lots of luxury cosmetics at DFS, though.
I’m going to Guam for five nights in January.
Apparently, he’s arranging a car service to take me to and from Narita Airport. I almost never ride in a chauffeured car in my everyday life, so when I said, “I’m most excited about being picked up in an Alphard!” he was completely exasperated.
Next year, besides Guam, we’re planning to go to Hawaii for the first time in my life, so I’m really excited.
Sorry for the long post. It seems to depend on the papa’s personality: some like to spend their trips actively, while others prefer relaxing by the hotel pool.
I love both, but ultimately, I have fun just being with my papa even without traveling. (I can’t deny that part of me is perfectly happy as long as we can have sex.) So honestly, traveling can feel a little troublesome, especially when you include the packing and preparation.
Thank you for reading my long post.
Other
Thinking back to answer your question, I’ve traveled to cities where my papas live, but I’ve only traveled with a papa once.
To cut to the chase, I think, “I guess that’s just how it is.”
Rather than overthinking it and turning it into a bad memory, I think you’ll be happier if you focus on the positive: “My dream of traveling with a papa came true—how wonderful!” ♪
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
Let’s grab drinks first. We’ll figure everything out after we’ve had a few. My treat.
👨 Male
Universe member
I’ve never traveled, so people will probably tell me to shut up, but… isn’t that just how it is?