It sounds like you think giving 8 just because she’s Gold is too indulgent, and I couldn’t help feeling that you look down on Gold women.
There’s a lot of competition for five-star women, so even 8 might not satisfy them.
In my experience, after making offers to around 50 women through the club, only a few asked for more than 8—and most of them were Gold women.
Also, offering 8 isn’t about spoiling a woman. For someone in her early 20s, an excessively high allowance can distort her sense of money.
That’s why I don’t offer more than 6.
The women may say that’s none of my business, though…
If I wanted to be intimate with a woman just once, with no intention of continuing the relationship, I’d be willing to offer 10 or even 100.
But I’m looking for long-term relationships with women from the club, so I prefer a low-paying, long-lasting arrangement—5 per pay-per-meeting—with women who also have a job outside papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
Picking up from yesterday（笑）So you went from 3 to 8, huh?(^^)
First of all, “Gold” and such are just labels the club assigns, so they have nothing to do with the allowance level. In the end, it’s all about market principles, so the ★5 rating is actually more important. It means she’s meeting enough people to earn that level of recognition. Plenty of Gold women receive so many offers that their going rate rises.
I feel a little uneasy about using the phrase “spoiling her too much.” If you’re willing to use money as a weapon, then you might as well give her a lot. Money is like a drug. I still can’t believe the “get them hooked from the start” strategy wasn’t nominated for this year’s buzzword award, but if you’re going to spend the money anyway, I think it’s better to use it strategically with that intention in mind. Following that logic, 8 feels a bit stingy, so let’s make it 10. Numbers like 8 are more suited to prices such as ¥2,980 or ¥398, where you want to create a subtle sense of a bargain. That doesn’t really fit a hard-boiled man’s strategy of getting someone hooked.
If you want to build a good relationship with a woman, you should ask about the allowance level first. Some women will casually state their own terms, while others might say, “Based on my past experiences, I consider this amount normal.” Even if it’s more than 8, you’d accept it if you wanted to continue seeing her, right? On the other hand, some women may ask, “I’m not really sure myself—what do you think, as a man?” You can state your preference while leaving the decision to her, saying something like, “I was thinking around ●●, but it depends on how you feel.” If she already has an allowance level in mind, she may then tell you the amount she wants.
If you want the relationship to last, it’s better to be able to talk about all sorts of things. I think communication is important—not just words, but also exchanging signals through your attitudes and behavior. Rather than making a one-sided move like following a rehearsed play, it’s really important to keep approaching her in different situations and seeing how she responds. Negotiating the allowance, which can be somewhat difficult to talk about, seems like a very important first step.
And by “negotiation,” I don’t mean anything as serious as haggling over prices at an electronics store or a used-car dealership. It’s more about quietly feeling out what the other person wants while pretending you’re not really negotiating, and finding a point where you’re both comfortable. Repeating that process helps you understand each other and develop patterns for reaching an agreement, which is why the relationship is more likely to last.
Taro
I mentioned in an earlier question that it’s best to ask the woman directly on the spot, but would you rather not ask?
Toward the end of dinner, or just after it, you could simply say something like, “I’d like to go to a hotel afterward—what kind of allowance were you thinking?”
If you’re asking how much cash to carry because you usually pay by card, I’d suggest having around one million yen in your wallet.
I’m not saying you should hand over one million yen. It’s more like a good-luck charm—if you have that much with you, you can probably handle most situations calmly.
