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Nov 30, 2022 21:39
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I’m in my early 20s, and I found out that a woman in her early 30s at the same hostess club gets a much higher allowance than I do. What makes the difference?
She said she wasn’t getting that much, but I happened to see a bundle with at least ¥100,000 in it, and it really discouraged me.
I also know women in their late 20s and a 36-year-old who do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), and they all get much more than I do.
Even at the club, the number of customers who request someone varies with age. Why do women get good customers and generous (well-paying) papas as they get older?
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Both you and the person you’re comparing yourself to are hostesses at the same cabaret club, right? Then you should be able to see the difference in your ability by simply comparing your sales at work.
If she’s performing worse at the club but has managed to find a papa (a male supporter) who gives her a higher allowance, then she’s either simply lucky or competing in a completely different area from cabaret work.
By “different area,” I mean she’s captivating her partner with things she doesn’t do at the club—maybe she’s incredibly erotic in bed, has no limits when it comes to unconventional play, or perhaps a different side of her personality that she doesn’t show at work is what appeals to him. Who knows, though.
Since you work at the same place, it would be quicker to get friendly with her and ask why. The papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) world has far fewer customers than cabaret clubs, so market principles don’t really apply. I think it’s a mistake to look for an answer based on universal rules.
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
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This is just my theory, but I think women who receive a high allowance probably have a better business sense than you do.
The secrets to getting a high allowance through papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) are:
1) Make your value look as high as possible
2) Turn your papa (a male supporter) into a fan of you
In the business world, these are called value marketing and fan marketing.
The allowance in papa-katsu is based on the same principle that determines prices in business: the amount is set where the woman’s value and the value the papa places on her are in balance. This is value exchange—that’s number one.
Number two isn’t about the value of the things or services you provide. It’s about making him think, “I’m a fan of hers, so I want to buy from her even if it costs more than elsewhere. I want to pay her a lot.” That’s what it means to turn someone into a fan.
I think the PJ women who manage to receive high allowances understand this even more than they rely on their looks or other attributes.
A familiar example is Apple’s iPhone. Android phones have better features, yet everyone somehow buys iPhones, which cost several times more than Androids, right? iPhone customers aren’t paying a premium for the specs. They’re buying it because it’s an iPhone. They like the world Apple has created, and owning an iPhone helps them become the person they want to be—it fulfills their desires. That’s all there is to it.
Another useful concept to understand when doing papa-katsu is “illusory assets.” At Universe Club, people often say that having “cabin crew” as your occupation makes it easier to move up to the Black or Platinum class, right? There’s a reason for that: in most cases, the illusory asset of being cabin crew works in a man’s favor. There’s an image that cabin crew are beautiful, well-educated, service-minded, and polite. Even if reality is different, haha.
That’s why creating a strong profile is incredibly important for female Universe members. Every successful PJ woman I know on Universe has built her profile extremely carefully from these business perspectives. People say the first step to succeeding on Twitter or Instagram is your profile, too. Your profile is the gateway that makes people think, “I want to follow her” or “I want to buy something from her.” Each social platform has its own winning formula for writing a profile that gets results, and you won’t achieve what you want unless you understand it. I think papa-katsu works the same way.
And while we’re on the subject, your profile photo is like a social media thumbnail. Even if you put a lot of effort into your profile, people won’t read it or watch your videos if your photo isn’t good. But unless your profile makes them think positively of you, it won’t lead to offers or a high allowance either.
I think you could receive an even higher allowance by developing your business sense.
That’s just my personal opinion.
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P.S. While writing this answer, I saw Flagmaker’s response appear, saying things like “There’s no dream in this…” It felt like they were talking about me, haha. Sorry for giving such a dream-crushing answer.
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Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
It’s true that attractive women get higher allowances, but if that’s the only reason, then there’s no hope for the rest of us.
This might make me unpopular with women, but as you get older, you’re able to put up with more. So naturally, the allowance gets higher too. I think there’s also an aspect where a higher allowance means a greater willingness to put up with things. In other words, you can increase your allowance through effort. Isn’t that even more hopeless?
No hope, huh? lol
**Edit:**
I think what Ittsu is saying is that it’s something you can work toward, so there’s actually hope in it!
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It’s incorrect to say that it depends on age.
I think the amount of salary or allowance someone receives depends not on their age, but on their personality, appearance, demeanor, and intelligence.
Do you have the poise, mannerisms, and way of speaking to work at a high-end club?
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Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
I don’t think age itself is directly related.
However, as people get older, they may indirectly develop qualities such as:
- Having plenty to talk about, without talking too much
- Being extremely considerate
- Having a strong sense of allure (men and women notice different things, so women may not always pick up on it)
- And other qualities that come with age
Those may be the things men find appealing.
So rather than assuming the reason is simply “age,” it might be helpful to take a closer look at what sets them apart.
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I don’t think age has anything to do with the amount of the allowance.
In the end, it comes down to whether that person is worth the allowance they receive.
To be blunt, there’s no point comparing your allowance with what other people receive.
Be grateful for the person you’re seeing now, and treat them well.
I believe women who can do that are the ones who may have a chance of receiving a generous (well-paying) allowance.