Tips Nov 23, 2022 18:36

I’m the one who asked about changes in a female college student’s sense of money.

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https://universe-club.jp/help/questions/view/14647 Thank you all for your thoughtful answers. It seemed that many of you make strategic decisions based on clear standards of value, much like taking a position when investing. That approach seems likely to improve one’s papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) satisfaction, so I’ll take it as a reference. When I gave her 500,000 yen, the expression on her face was, if I may be blunt, pretty creepy—a seriously weird look. It was a self-absorbed expression of exhilaration, as if the adrenaline was really flowing. It reminded me of the face of a gambling addict hitting a huge jackpot at pachinko. Was she thinking something like, “I’m amazing—I get this much money for nothing”? She looked like she might become addicted to it, which honestly scared me. So I have a question for those of you with more experience. I can’t understand how someone who would normally just ask their partner for money could feel happy receiving money without giving anything in return. If I were in the opposite position, it would be nothing but painful for me, so what exactly is supposed to feel good about it? I especially can’t understand the psychological exhilaration that seems to come with it. Does receiving money give them confidence in their youth and appearance, raising their self-esteem? Even when it comes from some old guy they see as nothing more than a source of money? To begin with, the reason I gave her money was partly out of curiosity. I never expected her to ask for that much, and I became curious about how she would react when receiving it. But I realize that I did something wrong and regret it. It felt like feeding a wild animal living in a noble ecosystem and destroying it in the process—like feeding dog food to a brown bear in Shiretoko and making it stop hunting. I feel a profound sense of guilt about it. So I may be a bit of a psychopath, but I don’t think I’m a kind person.
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The moment you write “no compensation,” I want you out. Akari
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紙ひこうき
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
Isn’t the point of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) to give her money because she makes you happy? Even outside papa-katsu, isn’t it just in a man’s nature to want to give money or do something for a woman, girlfriend, or wife? Isn’t that 50 a little too low?
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Oh! I’m glad to hear you’re doing well. I’m Potassium, a female member! The fact that you’re going out of your way to write about feelings you didn’t mention last time makes me think you’re only now trying to force yourself to sort out how you really feel. (Sorry if I’m wrong—I’ve just seen this kind of development happen a lot.) What I meant was: even if she was simply a woman you dated, couldn’t you have had a relationship where you both parted with feelings of gratitude and respect for each other? That said, it’s very human and kind of interesting—but wow, you’re narrow-minded, lol. Everyone has their own circumstances and ways of thinking. I’m sure you understand that the world you’ve seen and known isn’t the whole world, but didn’t you learn anything about a new world from the women you’ve dated so far…? If you came here because dating never broadened your perspective, then here’s my take. Receiving money doesn’t boost my self-esteem. I’m happy to receive it—it certainly comes in handy! But getting money isn’t an emotional kind of happiness. (Though “happiness” isn’t quite the right word, since it’s generally used to describe an emotion.) Because I care about the other person, I feel happy knowing that they care about me enough to go that far, and that my feelings have reached them. I think, “I’m glad.” The only things I can give my papa (a male supporter) are my time and my feelings. Because this is papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), the way my papa turns his feelings into something tangible is simply by giving me money as a physical object. People can lie with words as easily as they breathe, but actions are much harder to fake than words. You may not understand what I’m trying to say, but there is a world of feelings like this, too. That’s just my personal opinion.
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バジル
Age: 60s 👨 Male Universe member
What makes them happy is getting closer to their goal. Whether that goal is tuition, shopping, beauty treatments, or living expenses, I don’t know. But in the first place, girls who wouldn’t be happy to receive money while unemployed wouldn’t sign up. To put it another way, most girls find dealing with older men unpleasant, so they probably don’t see this as getting something for free—they see it as compensation for putting up with it.
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だて◎ゆめ
👨 Male Universe member
> To begin with, I gave her the money partly out of curiosity. I never expected her to ask me for that much, and I found myself wondering how she would react when she received it. You probably shouldn’t date women purely out of curiosity. As Mac said, it may be best to think of it as her feeling relieved because she had something she wanted and was able to achieve it. Rather than just imagining things on your own, I also think it’s good to change the way you look at and interpret things.
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Σ\(゚Д゚;) Hey, hey, hey, hey—LOL It wasn’t free, was it… You did what you were supposed to do. You only made her an offer? You didn’t even have dinner together? Why are you throwing money around and acting so blissed out? That old guy’s being thought of as an idiot.
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カズ
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
If having your worth quantified and validated through money excites you regardless of where it comes from, you might be a bit of a psychopath—but it’s definitely pretty creepy. Please be careful.
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フラグメーカー
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🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
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Age: 40s 👨 Male Universe member
Because it’s compensation for work. If you think of it as payment for a job, it’s only natural to feel a sense of accomplishment. Also, I find it strange to regret or reflect on something you did out of curiosity just because it didn’t work out. If something you tried out of curiosity fails, that’s simply a learning experience. And besides, a girl isn’t going to be destroyed by something like that. Women are tougher than you think.
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ダイ
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
People can’t truly understand what it’s like to be in the opposite position. So, in my opinion, it’s pointless for the questioner to try to think from a woman’s perspective. Personally, I think people who give someone a generous allowance, numb them to normal financial realities, then suddenly pull the rug out and end things are the worst.
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マックさん
🏅 日没を遅らせる唯一の方法は日没に向かって走り続けることだ
名古屋支店登録で、男性会員としての登録名もマックさんです。コラム多数書いてますのでよろしければご参照ください。20代の細身女性が好みで逆オファーには前向きです。経験無いまたは少ない方大歓迎。
Age: 60s 👨 Male Universe member
“Happy to receive money for nothing”? No, first of all, it isn’t for nothing, lol. Don’t get that part wrong. Put your hand on your heart and think about it carefully. What makes them happy is the relief of being able to cover their tuition, living expenses, or money they send to their parents. The person asking may have been a privileged college student, but female college students who get into papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) are sometimes—though not all of them—fighting through circumstances far worse than we papas could imagine. Maybe their parents spent their scholarship money, for example. Once they’ve secured the money they need, what makes them happy is being free from anxiety about the future. These are girls doing this for money. Some of them even had to work part-time to pay their own high school tuition. Of course, if they aren’t in that much financial trouble, some do genuinely want to find out how much they’re worth, or what their potential is. Rather than pure greed, as you said, they’re probably looking for a boost to their self-esteem. Those girls are still at the entrance to papa-katsu. Once they get used to receiving money, they eventually start getting a sense of accomplishment from turning it down instead. There really are female college students who feel satisfied watching a papa break down in tears after being rejected when he offered 1 million yen—even though she accepted 500,000 yen. “No—but I refuse.” Lol. Also, when men doing papa-katsu keep going on about money, it actually looks pretty pathetic. They talk about how it’s inappropriate from an educational standpoint, but really they’re just bitter about wasting 500,000 yen, right? Get over it and move on to the next one. What a small-minded man.
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