Wait—do men see women in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) and women who work at relaxation salons as being in the same category?
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If so, that’s a little disappointing. (Just to avoid any misunderstanding, I think women who work at relaxation salons are admirable for putting themselves out there as part of their job.)
Personally, I got into papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) because I don’t touch the bodies of multiple men, and I’m in a relationship with someone I felt I could be with. It makes me sad to think that my favorite papa (a male supporter) might lump me together with sex workers.
Do women who joined a dating club still not get seen as ordinary women?
I’m sorry if this made anyone uncomfortable.
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I think it’s pointless to ask which one is better.
At men’s esthetic salons and similar places, women provide sexual services to unspecified men without intercourse.
At dating clubs, women have the freedom to choose their partners, but they do have sex with them, right?
For the person asking, it was simply that she didn’t want to do anything sexual with unspecified men.
Women who work at men’s esthetic salons don’t want to go all the way—even if they could choose their customers.
Though, women in non-intercourse adult services sometimes do have sex with a decent man anyway, so in that sense, isn’t it basically the same as choosing your partner...?
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You don’t have to deal with an unspecified number of people, you can choose the papa you date, and you can receive an allowance.
So I think part of the questioner’s understanding is correct. If I were a woman, I’d probably choose papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
The common point is that if you have a serious partner—or someone you plan to marry—you’d keep it secret until the day you die.
It’s the same whether it’s a men’s esthetic massage service, sex work, or papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
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Once you’re doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), working at a men’s esthetics salon, as a hostess, or in the sex industry, you shouldn’t think of yourself as pure and innocent.
I know I’ve ended up with a body that’s become deeply and irreversibly tainted myself.
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Women who belong to dating clubs, women who married their first sexual partner, women who have one-night stands one after another, and women working in men’s esthe, delivery services, or soaplands—all of them are women in the same broad category, in my view.
The only difference is the kind of relationship they have with me: whether the benefit provided is an allowance, a sense of security, a fun experience in the moment, or simply being a customer who spends money.
Only you can understand your own values and how you reconcile your feelings. There’s no need to equate them with or share them with other people, and I don’t think you’ll gain anything by trying to make others understand.
If you feel lonely, you should share that only with people you feel you can understand and be understood by.
You should realize that questions like this are hardly any different from asking, “Are women over 25 old hags?”
Whether you draw the line at 23, around 30, or some other age—arguing over where to draw it is pointless, isn’t it?
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People in this world often justify themselves by saying, “It’s not with an unspecified number of people, and I have the right to say no,” insisting that it’s different from the sex industry.
But from society’s perspective, the line is the exchange of sex and money, so it’s not surprising that people see it as essentially the same as the sex industry.
Can you actually tell people that you do this?
Regardless of the strict definition of the sex industry, C- and D-type arrangements that assume an adult relationship (intimate) feel like amateur prostitution to me.
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Female member Potassium here.
It doesn’t really matter what other people think, does it? Everyone’s different.
I don’t do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) as a job. If you’re simply enjoying yourself and receiving an allowance, then I consider that just dating.
If it were a job, you wouldn’t do papa-katsu only when you were in the mood. You’d think of one person as your employer and another as your customer, and work to make a profit. Once you’re being paid, I believe that’s your responsibility as a worker.
What matters is how you see it yourself. Just as the nature of a relationship changes depending on the feelings involved—romantic feelings, love, friendship, and so on.
That’s just my personal opinion.
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There are all kinds of women who do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), so your understanding isn’t necessarily wrong.
This is somewhat unrelated, but personally, I’m not a fan of older men who act like they know everything and show off knowledge that seems pretty meaningless to outsiders, saying things like, “Compared with women in men’s esthetics, sex workers are such-and-such,” or “Women who do men’s esthetics and women who do papa-katsu have this or that in common.”
I’m also not particularly fond of the tendency to look at women who do papa-katsu from the men’s esthetics perspective and argue over whether “they’re different from us” or “No, they’re the same.”
How much of their sexuality someone chooses to monetize is up to the individual, and I don’t think there’s any point in trying to define such things.
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Once you join a dating club, neither men nor women will be seen as ordinary or inexperienced.
But you may be seen as honest. Even though what you want—companionship, money, or something else—may differ, you could also be considered wise for openly pursuing your desires and finding happiness along the way.
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