I’ve been wondering about this for a while: do the male members of this club really search believing they’ll find women who aren’t jaded? Every woman in the club—and even outside the club, any woman who’s willing to deal with an older man (excluding unattractive women)—is jaded to the core.
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We’re joining the club because we want money, yet you guys go on about whether we’re jaded or not, or how long we’ve been registered. I can’t help thinking, “What about you old men?” How many years have the older men answering questions here—or asking them—been members? How many hours a day are you glued to the Universe page?
It’s honestly exhausting having to put on an act and pretend not to be jaded when dealing with older men who are completely jaded themselves.
Honestly, I think it’s impossible for a thoroughly jaded older man to find a woman who isn’t jaded, no matter where he goes. At that point, he either has to give up or live in a fantasy world. Am I wrong?
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In my view, being intimate and being jaded—meaning having a bad attitude and being generally bitter—are two different things.
So rest assured: you, the questioner, are simply a mean-spirited, jaded person.
There are women who are genuinely kind, even if they’re intimate with their papa (male supporters) and date many of them.
I’d like to meet someone like that.
Just as women’s goal is money, men’s goal is to date women who fit their ideal type.
So keep doing your best to play the role of a good girl. I hope you manage not to let your true colors show.
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It depends on how jaded she is. I’m really drawn to women who are self-aware about it—who can sip whiskey and say, “Yeah, I’m pretty jaded.” I’d love to swap stories and say, “I’m basically like a cockroach myself.”
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Female member Potassium here.
If I can’t be loved unless I pretend I’m not jaded, then I suppose that’s all I’m worth.
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I also wanted to start by discussing the definition of being “jaded,” but I agree with what Taro said, so I’ll leave that part out.
I’m not a male member, so honestly, I don’t really care whether men like women who aren’t jaded or not. And I don’t think I’ll ever fit that definition myself, because I enjoy everything!
But when I thought about what would make me jaded, I realized it would probably be when the purpose of dating became 100% about receiving money, things, or whatever else—and I stopped feeling any joy from it. At least, that’s how it would be for me (this part is important).
As long as I can share information, time, and knowledge with the other person, and make an effort to make them happy, I don’t think that’s being jaded.
Well, I’m the type who likes to spoil people. It makes me happy and I enjoy it when something I do makes the other person happy, lol. So I think I’d become jaded if I started acting with the mindset of, “I’m doing this to get ○○ in return.”
I’m perfectly happy just thinking, “It’d be nice if I received something.” And I like men who understand that about me—not for any particular reason. I just like them.
Simply achieving goals and getting results is enough for work. A relationship through a club isn’t a job. You’re dealing with another person, just like yourself, so I think the important thing is taking your time and enjoying the process of the relationship.
That’s what matters most to me about being active in the club, though maybe I’m not getting that across…
I want to build relationships where, as long as we don’t inconvenience each other, we can part thinking, “They were a good person who added even a brief splash of color to my life. I’m glad we met.”
(By “part,” I mean that there will probably come a time when we have to go our separate ways.)
So, men may not be as good as women at using little tricks, but that doesn’t mean we should look down on them. Men aren’t stupid either. Even if they realize that someone is putting on an act, they may choose not to say anything.
I get tired of constantly trying to read each other’s true intentions, so I usually don’t bother with that.
Anyway, that’s just my personal opinion.
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Good question.
The truth is, everyone gets a little jaded, but we all try to come across as though we’re not. When you put in the effort, both men and women can genuinely make themselves seem unaffected. But some people push themselves too hard and end up becoming emotionally drained.
Relationships with people can be exhausting, so please don’t overdo it.
If you start thinking, “This isn’t fun,” or “There’s nothing in it for me,” it’s probably best to take a short break.
I’ve been registered for about four years, I think. I’m not making offers now, but I still check the Universe page from time to time.
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Well, let them keep dreaming.
Someone who isn’t jaded wouldn’t sign up with a dating club in the first place, right?
This stays between us—our little secret, okay? ♡
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I wondered what people mean when they call a woman “jaded,” so I looked it up since I wasn’t sure.
It means becoming streetwise or developing a bad attitude after going through various experiences. In Japanese, it’s called “surekarashi.”
You may have been through some difficult experiences, but I don’t think it’s a good idea to put yourself—or the women around you—down.
You may feel that way right now, but people change every day. I’m sure you can become a wonderful woman too.
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It reminds me of how, back when I was a student, people who had both gotten failing grades would argue over who scored ten points higher.
So, from the perspective of a guy who’s a 30, a woman who’s a 10 may seem world-weary, while a woman who’s a 40 may seem relatively innocent. In the eyes of society, both would be considered somewhat jaded, but there are still differences between them.
I check the site a few times a day, mainly to kill time while traveling or take a quick break. I look at women’s profiles and questions, but I don’t read other people’s answers very often, and my own answers are short, so I probably spend no more than about 20 minutes a day on it.
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You must be getting fed up with me all the time.
Honestly, sorry for being so naïve and living in a fantasy world.
Thank you for always perfectly pretending that I’m your only papa (a male supporter).
Since you double my allowance for pretending I’m not jaded, I look forward to continuing this arrangement.
Since we’re both human, I hope I can enjoy the kind of vibe that Taro above has.
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You’d look for women who aren’t jaded, right? Isn’t that a given? lol
Maybe we should start by defining what “jaded” means. I’d say it’s someone with a certain amount of experience who has learned only the ugly sides of human relationships from that experience, making it difficult for them to build deep connections with others—someone who’s forgotten ordinary emotions like happiness and sadness. The person asking the question seems pretty jaded to me.
I’ve had plenty of experience myself, so sometimes I realize I’ve ended up in that kind of state. But honestly, I don’t like it either. So I think about how to regain that freshness. I haven’t completely recovered the intensity I had before I started enjoying this kind of thing, but I do feel I’ve gotten some of it back.
There was a B-type woman who said she went to clubs fairly often and was used to being around men. But on one of our later dates, she was unusually quiet and tense over dinner. I figured she’d made up her mind, so I invited her out, and she came along to a love hotel without hesitation. Once inside, though, she suddenly got oddly energetic. She started making café lattes with the room’s kettle while watching variety shows on TV, happily saying how good they were, yet somehow avoiding eye contact. Then, out of nowhere, she said she was going to take a shower...
I really like that kind of flustered, chaotic energy.
I don’t think it’s about how much experience someone has. One woman told me she was involved in show business, but after we’d met a few times, she revealed that she did AV. She said her agency had told her not to mention it, but she didn’t say anything beyond that. It was obvious she was watching my reaction, so I just gave a lukewarm response like, “Oh, really?” Still, we ended up having fun talking about behind-the-scenes stories and slightly risqué jokes from the industry. After that, her reactions during intimacy became surprisingly enthusiastic. She never messaged me first, but whenever I sent her an invitation, she replied right away. When I said, “That was a fast reply lol,” she answered, “I just happened to be looking at my phone lol.” Those little exchanges were surprisingly fun. :)
I understand the idea that gaining experience makes you see the uglier sides of people and eventually look down on them, but I think that’s immature. This isn’t some fantasy—there are people whose wavelengths match yours, people you can laugh and get angry with after meeting only a few times, and people you genuinely want to cherish. It doesn’t have to be that serious. I think it’s better to value each encounter, one at a time.
There was a woman working in the adult-entertainment industry who casually said as she was leaving, “I like you, you know. Come see me again sometime. :)” The wording may sound a little strange, but it felt very manly somehow lol. I thought it was wonderful, and I still remember her.
It’s inevitable that we gain experience, but even after all that, I hope I can remain the kind of person who can say things like that.
Taro
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> How many hours a day are you glued to the Universe page?
Lately, I check it for a minute or two about once every four or five days—or sometimes I suddenly realize I haven’t checked it for a whole week...
I’m genuinely enjoying dating through a proper dating club—not an offer club or a contract club.
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It sounds like you’re fed up because every papa (a male supporter) who approaches you is looking for a “pure” type. I can certainly understand how you feel.
As a countermeasure, don’t accept your allowance in worn-out, crumpled Yukichi bills. Ask for crisp, straight-from-the-Mint Yukichi bills instead. Maybe that will straighten out your heart, too. Give it a try!
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That’s not true.
Just because the person asking the question is jaded doesn’t mean every other woman is the same.
Well, I don’t think you’d understand that, though…
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