I’m an unpopular member with a 3–3 record with Type B, and I’ve even been turned down by a Type A match via letter dating. Regardless of the type, what’s the latest date on which things developed into an adult relationship (intimate)?
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By the way, for my three Type B losses, I was turned down on the fourth date each time, so I backed off after that.
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I don’t think you need to worry too much about your win-loss record.
For example, in my case, I’m 0–1 with Type B.
But, well, it can’t be helped…
I’m an old guy and not exactly popular with women, haha.
And yet, once a relationship starts, it somehow ends up feeling like there’s no end in sight.
It’s strange.
Maybe getting past the initial hurdle is the key, since our age difference is over 40 years—but I wonder.
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I’ve only made one offer on B, but if you were able to have an adult relationship (intimate) in half of your B arrangements, wouldn’t the questioner’s allowance + appearance = overall papa-katsu appeal be a pretty reasonable estimate?
Simply switching to C would probably increase your chances, though you’ll still get rejected on C sometimes.
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This isn’t someone I met through a dating club, but we’ve met three times so far without an adult relationship, and we already have a fourth date planned. Though I don’t think anything intimate will happen.
It’s nice to have this kind of connection once in a while.
Sorry, this is unrelated to the question.
Marika
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> When it comes to Type A, I’m an unpopular member who has actually been rejected through a letter date.
You may want people to tell you that you’re not an unpopular member, but you unquestionably belong to the category of men women don’t want to meet.
Men who write strange things in their profiles may get rejected as soon as they make an offer, but women generally don’t reject men without a good reason.
That means there’s a strong possibility that the content of your profile is strange—perhaps you’ve written something exceptionally off-putting.
(Otherwise, it’s hard to imagine why you’d be rejected.)
There’s no point in going on a date with someone that strange, so I think women would be better off rejecting them outright. Still, it’s remarkable that some women accept the offer—perhaps there are a few bold enough to meet first and decide afterward.
> Regardless of type, what’s the latest date on which your relationship developed into an adult relationship (intimate)?
The way you phrase it—ignoring the woman’s type entirely—reveals a major problem with your thinking. But for CD, I believe the first date is generally the norm.
On the other hand, if you invite a Type B woman from the first date, or otherwise ignore the stated relationship type, you’ll likely accumulate enough bad reviews from women to be forcibly removed from the service before long.
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You’re going about it the wrong way by trying to figure out a woman’s vibe and everything else through a letter date. Surely you’re not trying to one-up her over LINE, are you?
It’s better to think of a letter date as simply a way to get in touch and arrange a meeting when you can’t meet right away.
Even among students, misunderstandings in LINE messages can sometimes develop into bullying.
If you’re not confident, things won’t move forward unless you meet and talk in person.
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There’s one girl I’ve probably met six or seven times, and she’s become my favorite.
The longest-running arrangement is with a girl I’ve met around 60–70 times—or maybe 8–9 times; either way, I’m still not sure whether she’s actually open to an adult relationship or just stringing me along. We’re still seeing each other, though things are currently on hold because I’ve found a favorite.
Some girls agreed to an adult relationship on the very first day, so I think they were secretly C-types.
I thought Kazu explained this very clearly:
> If I’m dealing with a professional, I can see the value in paying them to keep me company over a meal. But I think it’s ridiculous to pay an amateur to eat with me.
Some people are like that, but I’m the exact opposite.
I find it painful and see no value in paying professionals at lounges, snack bars, hostess clubs, or for dinner dates just to have them accompany me for a meal.
For me, an adult relationship is simply an extension of going on a date together. I feel value in spending time together even more than in the adult relationship itself, including during dinner dates. That’s why I don’t need an adult relationship every time.
So the question is: what do you find valuable?
With a B-type, I think you can enjoy the compatibility of the dates themselves after things progress to an adult relationship.
Even with a C-type, if you meet twice a week or more, you can enjoy the compatibility of simply spending time together—not just the adult relationship. Since this is a dating club, I don’t think it becomes a relationship where you can truly enjoy the person unless you meet at least five times a month.
A girl who doesn’t want an adult relationship every time you meet also doesn’t need an adult allowance every time.
When I was about to suggest a monthly arrangement to one such girl, she immediately brushed me off by saying, “I’m not some money-hungry person” (though her actual wording was slightly different). It only made me fall for her more… You’d be mistaken to think every girl can be won over with money. That happens too.
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As Dai-san said, I don’t think he’s unpopular with women.
At the club, women who identify as Type B usually move to an adult relationship (intimate) on the first or second meeting. However, with one woman I met outside the club—whose profile was listed as Type B (almost Type A)—we went on regular dates for about three months, so we had dinner only (no intimacy) more than ten times.
I had a feeling we’d eventually develop that kind of relationship, so I continued seeing her.
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Since I’m a B, I always do dinner only on the first meeting, though I may go to his room on the second or third.
With the papa I’ve been seeing the longest, it didn’t happen until our fourth meeting.
Also, with a generous papa I used to see for about two years, I believe we went on around ten daytime dates before anything happened. I enjoyed that too—it made me feel genuinely cared for.
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Unless you’re confident in your messaging skills, it’s probably better to prioritize meeting in person rather than doing a letter date.
If you prefer to get to know someone before meeting, you can send her an allowance via LINE Pay while you’re still messaging.
I don’t think it depends on her type.
Going 3–3 with Type B women doesn’t make you unpopular at all.
Personally, I’ve never taken things past the fourth meeting, but there have been quite a few women with whom things developed into an adult relationship on the third meeting.
If you keep meeting for dinner only for a long time, that becomes the nature of the relationship, making it harder to move toward an adult relationship.
In my case, even if she’s a Type A woman, I’m unlikely to keep meeting her after the fourth time if she shows no interest whatsoever in an adult relationship.
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I don’t think there’s really such a thing as being popular or unpopular at an exclusive dating club.
I don’t chase anyone, so if things don’t progress by the second date, I won’t see her again. In other words, two dates at most. Since they’re “independent adult women” who have signed up with an exclusive dating club, I assume they can make up their minds fairly quickly.
If she’s a professional, I can see the value in paying for her company over a meal. But paying an amateur to have dinner with me seems ridiculous.
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