I’m a Type B and want to consider an adult relationship (intimate) after dating three or four times.
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I have no experience with papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) or nightlife work.
Our second date was agreed in advance to be dinner only (no intimacy), but she messaged me asking for an allowance of 20,000 yen:
“An allowance of 20,000 yen would make me happy.”
It seems like a standard template.
Is it safe to assume she misrepresented her type?
Would it be too soon to contact the club?
Since they seem to recommend gaining experience through the club, I’m planning to continue seeing her up to four times. But do they explain this “four dates” arrangement to the women during the interview?
I often hear women say, “I want to think about it after dating three or four times.”
Also, does the first meeting count as one of those three or four dates?
If I include the first meeting, that would be a maximum of five dates. If we continue having pleasant dates and I still can’t make up my mind, should I report it to the club?
Would that cause trouble for her?
Sorry for all the questions.
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> Should I take this as a case of being misled about her type?
What made you think this was a case of being misled about her type? There’s nothing indicating that, yet you’re labeling her a scammer on your own. That makes you the biggest scammer here, if anything.
Besides, people who call women scammers are usually having trouble getting along with women, so I suppose that applies to you too.
You won’t improve because you’re blaming the other person for things not working out. Try looking more closely into why things aren’t working out.
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Even if you report her to the club as a scammer, the staff will usually just listen to your story about what went wrong. (It’s essentially complaint handling.)
Getting angry will only make you come across as a nuisance.
Instead, calmly and factually give them feedback that she turned out to be that kind of woman. The staff will appreciate it, and it could be useful for the next man.
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Do you actually understand how the club works?
There’s absolutely no misrepresentation involved.
If you want to move to an adult relationship (intimate) quickly, choose Type C.
Even with Type C, women can turn someone down based on their feelings—roughly half of them do. Because women are free to say no, the club is supported by women, and new women join every day.
As a papa (a male supporter), you need to make the woman like you.
If she turns you down, it doesn’t mean there was any misrepresentation. It simply means she didn’t feel like pursuing an adult relationship (intimate) with you or continuing things.
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In your case, it doesn’t seem likely that things will develop into an adult relationship (intimate), so I think it would be best to move on and meet someone else.
Rather than assuming she misrepresented her type, consider that the issue may be on your end—or, if you’d rather not think that way, simply accept that you weren’t compatible and move on.
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She says she wants to consider an intimate relationship after meeting three or four times… giving the impression of an innocent woman who isn’t used to papa-katsu.
Then she asks for an allowance of 20,000 yen just for dinner… giving the impression of someone experienced.
It feels very strange that these are the same person.
Or is this actually pretty common?
Marika
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The fact that she’s the one asking for ¥20,000 suggests she’s running a “type” scam. She’s a woman who makes money from dinner-only dates. She’ll never agree to an adult relationship.
This isn’t something to report. No-shows or drug addicts, for example, are reportable.
If her profile says something like “B, leaning toward C,” it’s reasonable to pass that information along to the club.
Men have the right to decide when to invite someone to take things further. If she says she only wants dinner on the second date, just decline and make another offer if that doesn’t work for you. I’d guess about half of the women classified as B would be okay with dinner only on the second date.
If you really want to win her over—or if you enjoy her company—you can keep meeting for dinner ten times or more. How much to pay for dinner-only dates is up to the man.
I’m currently traveling with a B after thirteen dinner-only dates. She’s sleeping cutely right beside me.
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I’m a Type B person who wants to consider an adult relationship (intimate) after dating three or four times.
I have no experience with papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) or working in the nightlife industry.
☆ Is this normal? Feel free to discuss the terms after the second date as well.
For the second date, we agreed in advance that it would be dinner only (no intimacy).
The woman messaged me asking for an allowance of 2:
“I’d be happy with an allowance of 2.”
That sounds like a canned message.
☆ You mean an allowance of 2 for dinner, right? That amount would be unheard of for an adult relationship (intimate). It isn’t a canned message.
Is it fair to assume she misrepresented her type?
Is it too soon to contact the club?
Why do you think it’s a scam? You haven’t even been harmed, so are you really going to report her? You’re pretty bad at dealing with people.
No wonder people dislike you for doing papa-katsu.
It seems the club recommends seeing it as a learning experience.
I’m willing to continue seeing her up to four times, but does the club explain this “four dates” thing to the woman during the interview?
☆ It isn’t set in stone, you know. It’s rare, but even with Type B, the woman may like you and decide to have an adult relationship (intimate) that same day. Please understand that.
I often hear women say, “I want to think about it after three or four dates,” either in videos or directly from them.
Also, do those three or four dates include the first meeting?
☆ Of course, I mean in-person meals or outings—not Zoom or LINE.
That would be up to five dates including the first meeting.
If we have several pleasant dates and I still can’t bring myself to move forward, should I report her to the club?
Would that just cause trouble for her?
☆ If you still can’t make up your mind after that many dates, it means she’s someone you can’t accept.
Do you really not understand unless someone spells it out for you?
It means she doesn’t like you. Don’t report her.
Sorry for asking so many questions.
☆ Please do nothing but ask questions. This is a Q&A site, after all.
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I love women who want to move to an adult relationship after going out for dinner three or four times, and I like A-types even more.
Of course, I count the first date as one of those times.
As long as she’s cute—or simply fun to be around—I’m fine with anything.
You’re free to report me, but that’s basically like declaring:
“I’m a creepy old man who can’t attract women.”
With my favorite, I went on dinner dates for about three months before we had an adult date.
It felt like I was dating my favorite idol, so I actually wished that time could last forever, and I was nervous about having an adult date.
Even though we only went out for dinner, I was giving her at least 600,000 yen a month, so it’s nostalgic to remember worrying things like:
“What if I smell down there?”
“What if my breasts aren’t nice?”
I hope you’ll enjoy the present.
After your fourth date or so, why not invite her to have an adult date? If she says no, you can always offer to meet the next woman.
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If you’re not satisfied even after having a fun time together and receiving an allowance of 20,000 yen, you should consider that money gone. The woman never promised you anything. It’s not really a case of bait-and-switch, either. As far as I remember, Type B only meant “there’s a possibility, but not on the first meeting.” You’re free to interpret it however you want, but she’s equally free to make her own choices. Complaining to the club about her is embarrassing.
What exactly is this “four meetings recommended by the club”? That’s the first I’ve heard of it. I assume you got that impression somehow from a conversation with the staff, but I don’t think there’s any such rule. Besides, if they started doing things like that, it would just become more and more of a hassle. Don’t limit yourself to this site—try the adult entertainment scene and other dating clubs too, and develop some common sense.
You can tell whether getting intimate is possible within five minutes of meeting someone. Don’t underestimate people’s ability to judge. The conclusion is probably reached much earlier than you think. You just haven’t realized it, so you keep overthinking everything.
Once you understand that, meeting a woman who seems open to it four or five times before your first intimate encounter can be an enjoyable way to build anticipation and create a story. I have no problem going ten times, not just four or five. It may feel a little like waiting until the very last moment before a sumo match begins.
If you don’t understand this, start by honing that instinct. You’ll get plenty of opportunities to do so in the adult entertainment scene.
Of course, even with some experience, you’ll sometimes misread the situation. That’s what I mean by saying you should consider it money gone. If you meet a pay-per-meeting woman twice at 20,000 yen each time without getting anywhere, you could have made an offer to a GOLD woman instead. Three times, and you could have gone for Platinum. You should always be asking yourself, “Wouldn’t it be better to move on to the next one?”
For men, dating clubs are probably an intermediate-to-advanced level. Someone inexperienced could easily misunderstand all sorts of things. Isn’t the proper path to gain various experiences in the adult entertainment scene first, and then move on to dating clubs?
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If your thinking is, “She’s a Type B, so the second date should be fine, right?” then I think that’s risky.
If you’re in such a hurry, I honestly wonder why you chose a Type B woman in the first place.
Also, she said, “I’d be happy with 20,000 yen,” but did you bring up an amount first?
Whether you suggested it or not, the fact that she told you how much she wanted could be interpreted positively as, “She wants to see you again,” or negatively as, “I need to get at least 20,000 yen…”
If you believe that experience is the best teacher, I’d suggest going on three or four dates without an adult relationship (intimate), and showing enough sincerity and initiative to make her fall for you and want to initiate things herself.
After the fourth date, I think a considerate man would check in by asking things like, “Have you decided how you feel about continuing?” or “Is there anything you’re worried about?”
Since you went through a dating club, why not enjoy the process of actually dating?
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Calling someone a “type scammer” is pretty pathetic.
Personally, I think it’s basically the same as introducing yourself by saying, “I’m incompetent.”
Anyway, I found the questioner to be a rather bothersome man. You’re over 40 now—why not calm down a little?
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It’s not a type scam, so there’s no reason to report it.
If you do report her, you may actually be flagged as someone to watch, and they may stop introducing you to women. (When it comes to relationships between men and women, they generally won’t take a man’s side seriously unless the facts are extremely clear.)
With Type B women, some want an adult relationship (intimate) every time, starting from the first meeting or the second date onward. Others don’t want that every time, so you have to see whether the man brings it up by the second or third meeting.
Men may focus mainly on sex, while women may focus mainly on money. When each person’s motives become too obvious, some people are fine with that, while others aren’t.
If you’re worried it might be a type scam, you should only make offers to women who are Type B but lean more toward Type C.
And if you’re so hesitant that you can’t welcome women who joined despite their uncertainty, it may be better not to make many offers to Type B women.
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