I work hard every day to be chosen as one of a woman’s selected supporters.
I make sure she feels comfortable around me, never do anything she dislikes, and always adapt to her preferences. Using a “second papa” strategy, I’m seeing women who are my type.
She’s incredibly beautiful, and the intimacy is amazing (she’s very tight down there). I’m the second papa for a Minato Ward woman who has an apartment bought for her through a monthly arrangement. (Maybe I’m her third or fourth, haha.) I even adjust my schedule to hers and sometimes meet her suddenly at a love hotel, haha.
My goal is to give women a chance to unwind. Her main papa is apparently a difficult, almost psychopathic person, so I listen to her problems too.
I think the right combination depends on the person asking the question. But if you’re aiming for a high target amount, you should have more generous (well-paying) papas. For lower amounts, it may be best to secure easygoing papas like me—ones who are really good at reading the room (I know, I shouldn’t say that myself, haha) and can help her relax.
Makeo-san ▶
Am I Hima-san?!
I’m kind of an idiot, so I might be throwing stones without even realizing it (lol).
I’m the kind of idiot people often think, “Why doesn’t this girl get it?!”
(｀･ω･´) *smug face*
I don’t mean any harm, but I’m sorry to all the other answerers too!
I’ll throw a stone every now and then♪
I typed “Makeotoko-san” (まけおとこさん), and it converted automatically!
Sorryーーーー! Looks like I had the pronunciation wrong!
I have no idea what kind of people will become answerers?!
Everyone has different personalities and opinions, which makes it interesting, so I’m looking forward to it!
P.S.〜
What a relief! A humble, high-spec person sounds just like a princess~
To the person who asked ▶
Sorry for answering so late m(*_ _)m
For me, it would absolutely be someone I can relax and feel comfortable with when we’re together (*^^*)
I’ll still try not to slack off, since I need to stay somewhat composed♪
For now, I’ll continue seeing both of them and choose whichever feels like a better fit for me.
I’m still seeing a papa (a male supporter) I really click with—or rather, someone I enjoy spending time with.
Hopefully, you’ll find an arrangement that feels comfortable and manageable.
P.S.
MakeMan, what do you mean by “throwing stones”?
I think having more people answer with different perspectives is a good thing.
We’d love to hear from you.
I’m Makeo, a male member—and a loser at papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan). If you type “makeotoko,” it converts correctly in one go, so Hima, please give it a try m(_ _)m
*I didn’t know that either, lol.*
Questioner, what kind of PJ do you consider a winner? This is how I used to define it:
1. An “ordinary papa” she isn’t particularly into pays 10,000 yen or more per pay-per-meeting arrangement.
2. With a papa she genuinely likes, she exchanges LINE messages almost every day and accepts only a token allowance for adult relationships (but isn’t emotionally entangled).
3. She casually keeps more than ten papas who pay above market rates at all times, and whether she drops or replaces them is entirely up to her.
4. She isn’t a compulsive spender and can comfortably support herself through her day job without any papa-katsu allowance.
5. She genuinely enjoys papa-katsu.
My definition of a winning PJ is someone who has all five of these qualities at a high level. What do you think?
And someone like that actually exists—I met her recently.
When I talked with her, she didn’t have any problems with papa-katsu at all. She simply thought everyone was as fortunate as she was. Once I explained just how privileged her situation was, her worries were resolved in seconds. She was just extremely humble by nature.
On top of her looks, she has a solid daytime career, a reliable business plan that doesn’t depend on papa-katsu, and a humble personality despite being highly accomplished.
Questioner, you should also get to that level before selecting your papas. There’s always someone better out there.
I’ve been encouraging her to become an answerer, but what do the other answerers think?
“An acquaintance of a high-spec loser”
With that title, I’m sure stones will come flying at me from all directions. But unlike an arrogant, ignorant person like me, if you’re willing to welcome this humble woman, I’d like to encourage her to go for it.
I’m sure Maezawa-san would be pleased too.
Update
After actually talking with her, I realized she wasn’t pandering to papas at all. Her personality when asking a question and her personality at other times are completely different. Naturally, an entirely different personality appears when you meet me in person too. Even the grand old man from Nagoya is surprisingly polished in person—so much so that you’d say, “Huh?”—unlike when he’s answering questions. I’ve also heard that Maezawa-san is a very kind person in real life.
Update 2
> I think the Flag-san types who casually say things like “Let’s all male members get along” are actually the ones you can’t let your guard down around, lol.
After this comment, the number of likes went up by about three, which cracked me up 😂
Update 3
Early-san and Rin-san, you haven’t thrown any stones at me, so don’t worry. Though, feel free to throw one at me once in a while♪
Update 4
Hima, it’s pronounced “Makeo.”
You can’t get it to convert correctly by typing just “makeo,” so Taro-san taught me that typing “makeotoko” is more convenient.
The grand old man from Nagoya has been calling me “Makeotoko-san” for years, though, lol.
That’s kind of a brutal question, isn’t it?
Personally, I’m doing my best to be the kind of papa who keeps things relaxed and easy. On the other hand, there are papas who offer a higher allowance. Both sides are working hard and striving to improve in their own way.
But in the end, they’re really two sides of the same coin. Either approach is fine, haha.
So even if we follow different schools of thought, I’d like the male members to get along.
P.S. I’m actually the opposite—I find it hard to watch girls who are overly concerned with pleasing others. I’m not trying to throw stones; I’m just expressing my stance ^^;
You say you’re choosing between them, but with only two people, it’s more of a “Which one?” kind of question.
If there are just two, I think you could continue seeing both. In fact, unless you keep both arrangements going, there’s a chance that once he finds a new woman, he may end things with you.
That’s why I think it’s better to maintain relationships with multiple partners, just in case.
Stay with him for a while, even if you receive new offers. If someone new turns out to be better, you can simply cut ties with the papa who isn’t treating you well.
Men do the same thing, so don’t worry about it.
Choose a relationship that’s enjoyable and mutually beneficial for both of you.
I think the best approach would be to keep seeing both types in moderation while looking for—or nurturing—a papa who makes you feel comfortable and offers a generous allowance.
There may not be many of them, but they do exist, so I think that’s your best bet.
[Edit]
As far as I know, I’ve never thrown stones at Mr. Makeo, but I apologize if I’m mistaken.
If he would like to become an answerer himself, I have absolutely no problem with that. He’d be welcome.
If I were you, I’d continue seeing both of them for a little while longer.
If the papa (male supporter) who gives you a higher allowance becomes even more generous, I think the lower-paying papa will naturally become less of a priority.
I agree with Seattle.
I thought it was pretty obvious that you could go with multiple people for that. But if there are about five of each type, it might be a bit difficult.
Marika
How about two of the former and one of the latter?
If it’s a stone from the gorgeous Misei, I’d like to give it a try. I’ve met her at a book launch event before. She’s the most attractive one—elegant and refined, yet with something hidden beneath the surface.
Aren’t they basically the same either way?
> A papa (a male supporter) you feel comfortable and relaxed around, but whose allowance is average or on the low side. — ①
> A papa (a male supporter) you have to be somewhat considerate of, but whose allowance is relatively generous. — ②
① = 5×4 + 2×16 = 52–5×8 + 2×12 = 64
② = 10×8 = 80–10×4 = 40
52–64 vs. 80–40
Is it allowance that matters most? The adult relationship (intimate)? The relationship itself? Or feeling comfortable?
Since allowance seems to carry the most weight, I’d choose the latter, ②.
That said, having a papa who offers average allowance but makes you feel relaxed, lets you blow off steam in everyday life, and makes a half-day date fly by while helping you unwind could be nice too.
Strategically speaking, it would be less troublesome to increase the number of papas who offer generous allowances for short dates. You wouldn’t have to worry about running out of conversation topics—or saying the wrong thing.
P.S.
> Having all of ①②③④⑤ at a high level
That’s true. And in addition to papas, if she continues seeing men she had already been meeting before papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), without receiving any allowance, she probably wouldn’t have any shortage of completely stress-free men either, since no allowance is involved.
Even for women like that, marriage seems to be a different matter. Apparently, finding a marriage partner doesn’t go smoothly…
Is it similar to the psychology of wanting to write, “My wife kicked me”?
I was really torn between having fried shrimp or hamburg steak for dinner tonight.
Which one do you think the questioner would have preferred?
P.S.
I think Flag-san, who says things like “Let’s all the male members get along,” is more untrustworthy than Makeo-san, who wants people to throw stones at him lol.
Even after hearing other people’s opinions, you’re the one who has to decide.
Personally, I’d choose someone I feel comfortable with, even if the allowance is a little lower.
What a luxurious dilemma!
If you have that many options, you probably already have some priorities in mind. I think it would be best to put your own feelings ahead of other people’s opinions.
I’d say your decision should come down to what you’re looking for through papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
**P.S.**
I’ve never meant to throw stones at Makeo-san, either. I’m genuinely impressed by how much effort he puts in—or rather, treats as a matter of course—to meet the women he dates.
It also made me realize that women shouldn’t neglect making an effort, either.
So if a woman has earned Makeo-san’s approval, she must be a wonderful person who has worked very hard, and I’m sure there’s a lot she could share as an answerer. I think she should consider becoming one.
It’s been a while since we’ve had an “ウンカレー” question.
Since it comes down to personal preference, I think you should simply do what you like.
More importantly, though, perhaps you should reflect on the fact that you’re 30 and still can’t make decisions for yourself.
