I’m the one who asked about my monthly-arrangement papa (a male supporter) receiving 200,000 yen.
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I had been thinking I would end the relationship, but I’m going to suggest a pay-per-meeting allowance of 100,000 yen and see how things go.
The reason I was considering ending things was that if the allowance I had been receiving was reduced from 200,000 yen to 100,000 yen, I wouldn’t be able to accept it with the same feelings, and it would probably feel awkward for him to hand it over, too.
In that case, I thought I might as well switch to someone new with whom we could exchange it comfortably. It was honestly a very selfish way of thinking.
But I’ve started to feel that I’m the only one thinking about these subtle emotional nuances, while he sees things in a much more businesslike way.
I’m always the one being considerate when arranging schedules, but when I really think about it, I’m starting to feel that I’ve been treated rather carelessly and have received pretty curt replies.
It may end with the pay-per-meeting allowance of 100,000 yen, but if it continues, I’d like to see how things go.
If he’s genuinely struggling financially, I feel like he’ll say something.
I may have made a mistake by going along with almost everything he wanted and switching to a monthly arrangement so soon.
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No matter how businesslike she may be, such a drastic cut would be hard to accept.
It would kill her motivation, and things would probably feel awkward and unenjoyable for both of you. For everyone’s sake, wouldn’t it be better to part ways and look for a new offer?
Imagine you were the questioner—say, a company president. If you were told, “Starting tomorrow, your salary will be cut in half because you’ve been overpaid and it isn’t in line with your performance,” what would you do?
Would you stay with the company? Even if the salary were the same, I’d be very likely to change jobs. I’d feel insulted, my pride would be hurt, and staying would be awkward…
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If offering an allowance of ¥100,000 per meeting would get you a yes from roughly 90% of the women in the Platinum and Black classes, then I think it’s perfectly fine to end things if being involved with her is causing you stress.
No matter how desperate she may be financially, there’s probably something wrong with a woman who can’t satisfy you despite effectively receiving ¥200,000 per meeting. Nine times out of ten, she likely has several papas (male supporters).
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If you were only meeting once a month even with a monthly allowance of 200,000 yen, then 100,000 yen per meeting would be a significant cut.
It seems like arguing would only leave you feeling upset, so if he’s no longer interested, ending the arrangement is probably best.
Still, I think he’s awful for offering such a generous allowance and then suddenly pulling the rug out from under you.
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If she’s genuinely struggling financially but doesn’t seem grateful for receiving 200,000 yen, and she isn’t someone you want to see again or take care of, I think it would be fine to end things rather than reduce the allowance.
There are better women out there who would be a better match for you. You don’t have to be so considerate—there are women you can enjoy spending time with once a month.
I think your valuable time and money would be better spent on someone new.
—Ryo
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This is Potassium.
When dissatisfaction keeps building up on either side, the relationship will eventually fall apart sooner or later, so I think it’s better to resolve things early.
If you’re not seeing results, you can’t really think about what comes next—and women aren’t stupid. You can find a way of earning that works for you.
If you’re thinking of looking for someone new, I recommend being cautious about monthly arrangements.
I told my papa the same thing, but even though we don’t get to see each other very often, our monthly arrangement ended up being more than my pay-per-meeting allowance. Maybe feelings can’t always be controlled, though lol.
I’m truly very grateful.
Papa, thank you as always.
Just my personal opinion.
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You’d have to be pretty experienced to say something like, “I need 20,” or to bring up a monthly arrangement right away. You’d only say that to someone who sees you as money rather than a person—someone who doesn’t truly value you.
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From the way she acts, she seems experienced, so she probably has other papas (male supporters) as well and likely isn’t struggling financially.
If she were truly in financial difficulty, I don’t think she would behave that way.
I think it’s best for you to do what feels right to you.
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I think it would be better for both of you—the new woman and you—to comfortably give her 100,000 yen.
If she was someone you felt was worth giving 200,000 yen a month to even without meeting, she probably has other papas as well. To her, you’re a generous papa who gives her a monthly allowance without even meeting, which is certainly appreciated—but the moment you start feeling it’s no longer worth it for you, I think that’s when the relationship ends.
She’s probably sensed that to some extent too. If she doesn’t want to be cut off, she’ll likely make some kind of effort from her side as well.
For now, why not suggest a pay-per-meeting arrangement of 100,000 yen and carefully consider both her reaction and your own feelings?
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After reading the question above, I got the impression that the questioner is using “monthly arrangement” to mean a fixed monthly payment, isn’t she?
Especially when negotiating, I think it’s important to use terms consistently. Contracts often define their terminology right at the beginning, with wording like, “Hereafter, ○○ shall mean〜,” don’t they?
In any case, fixed monthly arrangements are prone to misunderstandings due to differences in expectations, so I don’t think they’re something to enter into casually.
Also, the questioner seems to be assuming that she’s seeing only him. But if the woman is struggling financially, and she’s receiving as many as ten offers, I’d expect her to have at least a few other supporters.
She may not be getting 20 per pay-per-meeting date, but if she has several papas paying 5 each time, she could easily make up for what the questioner provides by meeting them a little more often or getting back in touch with previous supporters.
So, what exactly is your question?
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