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Sep 14, 2022 20:25
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Everyone’s questions and answers have been really helpful!
There’s still so much I don’t know, so I have a question of my own.
A certain poster asked about P members who don’t specify the allowance beforehand, before an adult relationship, or who offer only a low amount.
However, during my interview, I was already asked how much I would like to receive for an adult relationship. The staff member also said they would tell the man my requested amount, plus transportation expenses, so I assumed that I would definitely receive that amount. That’s why I’m surprised to learn that negotiation may be necessary.
Does this mean that the men are reluctant to pay that amount even after the club has told them what it is?
I’m sorry if my question is difficult to understand.
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Other
I was asked about it during my interview too, but I didn’t really know the going rates or much else, so I don’t remember what I said ( ◜ཫ◝)
That said, none of the men I’ve met so far have ever said things like, “That’s more than I expected!” or “That’s way too little!” So I get the impression they don’t pass that kind of feedback along.
It’s probably part of how they assess you during the interview, too…
I think if you name an amount that’s too high, they may wonder, “Hmm, maybe this isn’t quite right?”
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Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
> During my interview, I was asked how much I would want if things progressed to an adult relationship (intimate).
About five years ago, staff were prohibited from asking women how much they wanted for an adult relationship.
It seems there are still people within the company who don’t follow the rules.
The reason this was prohibited was that men would ask, “You asked her, right? So tell me how much she wants,” leaving us unable to respond. (Naturally, we’re not allowed to answer under the rules.)
Also, when someone broke the rules and disclosed the amount, the amount a woman wanted at the interview could differ from what she wanted after gaining various experiences. This sometimes led to complaints from men saying, “That’s not what you told me,” even though the information had been shared with their interests in mind.
Women also complained, saying things like, “I told the staff, so I assumed they would tell the man too. I said I wanted 50,000 yen, but afterward I only received 30,000 yen. Why did you ask me in the first place?”
So the policy became: asking creates misunderstandings, while not asking prevents them. Staff were prohibited from asking women how much allowance they wanted. If we didn’t know, there was nothing we could tell men even if they asked.
However, men repeatedly complained:
“It’s difficult not knowing the allowance.”
“If a woman needs a large amount, I won’t make her an offer in the first place.”
“Please do something about this.”
As a result, some staff began asking women how much they wanted per month. Since they weren’t asking about a pay-per-meeting amount, they considered it not to be a violation of the internal rules, and this eventually became standard practice.
> My coordinator said that the amount I requested, plus transportation expenses, would also be communicated to the man.
I’m surprised that a staff member stated it that explicitly.
We do not communicate that amount to men, so I don’t think that person was actually an employee of Universe.
Where did you have your interview? Is it possible that, while thinking you were registering with Universe, you actually registered with a different dating club?
> I assumed that the amount I requested was guaranteed, so I was surprised to learn that negotiation was necessary.
At Universe Club, the allowance is decided between the two people, so negotiation is necessary.
I’ve heard that other dating clubs tell men the woman’s requested amount, apparently knowing that this may violate the Anti-Prostitution Law. In those cases, women may receive the amount they requested without having to say anything, but since this is highly likely to be illegal, I think there is a considerable risk of the club being investigated or shut down.
> Does this mean the man is reluctant to pay that amount after being told it by the club?
We don’t tell him the amount, so there’s nothing for him to be reluctant about.
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
It doesn’t happen anymore, but up until a few years ago, I had several women ask me things like, “Hasn’t the club told you how much allowance I’m expecting?”
I guess there are still coordinators who’ll ask that directly.
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
The amount you tell your coordinator is not guaranteed to be the minimum you’ll receive.
Once you meet, it’s a “free” relationship, so everything is decided freely between the two of you.
Otherwise, the club would essentially be managing prostitution.
Even if you say you’re looking for 300,000 yen a month, it’s unclear whether you want 300,000 yen from one man or 100,000 yen each from three men, so men generally take it only as a rough guideline.
Other
I’m Potassium, a female member.
As Seattle-san said, the club can’t set the amount for the relationship, since that would violate the law.
When the club asks women roughly how much they’re hoping to receive per month, they’re probably just trying to get a sense of their expectations and make matching easier—without explicitly listing any amounts. Since the club makes money when an offer is made, they likely want to understand each woman’s financial expectations in order to facilitate matches.
So, in the end, you’ll have to negotiate for yourself! lol
That’s just my personal opinion, though.
Other
Congratulations on joining!
Some dating clubs other than Universe apparently state things like “allowance of X or more,” but that’s legally quite a gray area—or possibly over the line—so at least at Universe Club, I don’t think they communicate that to the men.
As far as I understand, what they asked about in the interview was simply your desired monthly amount, not how much you wanted per meeting. Sorry if I’ve got that wrong.
Men have different financial circumstances, too. Some offer 100,000 yen or more per pay-per-meeting arrangement, while others offer 50,000 yen. It’s not necessarily that they’re being stingy; I think it comes down to each man’s personal values.
Since the allowance amount is easy to compare, it’s natural to judge people based on that, but I think taking things like their personality into account and making an overall assessment will lead to a better relationship!
Other
I’m Ryo, one of the female respondents.
I believe they asked during the interview how much you were hoping for per month.
After you receive an offer, during your first date, they may ask something like, “What would you like to do after this?” while you’re having dinner. That would be a good time to tell them what you’re looking for.
I’m also a Type C and make a point of being upfront about my preferences. Your terms may not always match what the other person wants. If they don’t align, you can negotiate, or simply decline by saying you can’t accept the offer.
👨 Male
Universe member
That’s because the man has usually made up his mind by the time the arrangement begins.
You simply need to decide whether to proceed based on the amount he offers.
The club asks how much you’re hoping for, and I believe that’s reflected in your profile.
The man likely considers both your requested allowance and what he can afford before making an offer.
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
What I think the staff member meant was how much you’d like to receive per month—not your allowance, since that could be considered facilitating prostitution.
The information about how much you’d like to receive per month from all your male supporters is shared with them as a reference, but it doesn’t mean that amount comes from each individual man. You’ll need to negotiate the terms yourself.
In Paparazzi’s columns, women sometimes go to a room just because the man asks, “Do you have time after this?” But when you’re a beginner, it’s better to agree on the allowance during dinner before going to the room. Also, make sure you receive the money before anything intimate happens.