As someone mentioned in a question below, paid socializing seems to be more popular than papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) these days.
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When women in their teens, twenties, or around thirty sign up with a dating club, are they generally aiming to become intimate with older men?
With paid socializing, the amount varies from girl to girl, but they get to keep 80% of it, so they can earn a pretty substantial amount just by having dinner for two to four hours.
That’s why I feel like there are quite a few women who are currently taking a break from the club and combining a monthly arrangement with a papa (a male supporter) and paid socializing.
I can’t help feeling that it’s better to receive a substantial amount without having to get intimate. Is that a bad way of thinking?
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Haha, I agree—it sounds like a good idea.
You should do whichever you prefer, as long as you’re comfortable with it. I used to go to hostess clubs too, although I haven’t been in quite a while now—probably around 20 years. They’re fun, aren’t they?
I think hostess clubs and paid social drinking are enjoyable in their own way. That said, sugar dating also seems to have its advantages. Around the one-year mark in our relationship, she said that papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) wasn’t so bad either.
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That sounds like a good idea.
The most important thing is finding the place that suits you best.
Personally, I don’t feel that cabaret clubs or paid drinking parties are worth spending even a single yen on. In fact, I find it painful to spend even a minute in those spaces—I just want to get out. What I find especially unbearable is watching people get worked up while repeatedly touching others through sexual and workplace harassment, even with people all around them.
As far as I’m concerned, I wouldn’t want to attend a paid drinking party even if I were asked or offered money. I’d hate it.
Some people are comfortable with both papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) and paid drinking parties, while others can only handle one or the other.
I think this varies from person to person, regardless of gender.
Being in an environment that doesn’t suit you is nothing but painful.
What matters most is that you find the place that feels right for you.
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I’ve never been to a paid drinking event, so I imagined how it might go!
Paid-Drinking Guy: “I just want to have drinks with a girl! I’m not interested in hitting on her or inviting her to a hotel~”
Paid-Drinking Girl: “Actually, same here! I’m not into an adult relationship either. Honestly, the higher the allowance, the better—and the shorter the time, the better too (≧∇≦)b”
Paid-Drinking Guy: “Oh! We’re on the same wavelength! I get a real thrill from giving as generous an allowance as possible!”
Paid-Drinking Girl: “Amazing! This is why paid drinking is so popular—you get to meet people like this＼(^o^)／ I’m so glad I met you today.”
Paid-Drinking Guy & Girl: “Cheers to paid drinking!” Clink!
Paid-Drinking Guy: “We’ve only been here five minutes, but since I like keeping things short, shall we call it a night? Here’s your allowance!” *Flip*
Paid-Drinking Girl: “This is the best possible outcome, but… what is this? Just one bill? Only one?”
Paid-Drinking Guy: “Look closely. It’s a 1 Googasha bill.” *Smug grin*
Paid-Drinking Girl: “You’re right! Look at all those zeros! I can only count as far as the trillions, but I can tell it’s an incredible amount~”
Paid-Drinking Guy: “I made it myself! I wanted to make the allowance as generous as possible! It’s worth way more than the national budgets of all the countries in the world. By the way, my favorite comedians are Saraba Seishun no Hikari.”
Paid-Drinking Girl: “You’re the best, Paid-Drinking Guy! I love you already! I’m getting really excited… I’m starting to feel a little worked up.”
Paid-Drinking Guy: “What a coincidence! I was just starting to feel worked up about you too.”
Paid-Drinking Guy & Girl: “Want to go to a hotel? ♥”
Now I kind of want to try paid drinking.
Let me know if my imagination is way off, lol.
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A few friends have invited me to paid drinking parties, but honestly, I find papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) easier.
If you can find a generous (well-paying) papa (a male supporter) who doesn’t make you feel pressured, you can earn well over ¥10,000 without drinking or having an adult relationship (intimate). Plus, you don’t have to worry about gaining weight from eating and drinking with a different person every day.
That said, paid drinking parties may also be easy if you manage to find a generous client.
Either way, it’s true that paid drinking parties suit some people better than others.
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For paid drinking parties, a Universe “Premium Black” girl might occasionally earn ¥30,000 an hour for a one-off event, but you won’t get referred unless you become extremely close with the attendant and can entertain any kind of client flawlessly. In other words, it’s not a reliable, ongoing income.
I assume you asked this because you have exceptional hosting skills and breathtaking beauty, but fewer than one in a hundred women doing paid drinking parties meet that standard.
With papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), on the other hand, it’s not unusual for a woman to earn around ¥500,000 a month as long as she has good physical chemistry with her papa (a male supporter), even if she isn’t breathtakingly beautiful.
You don’t have to drink, you can get home early, and you don’t need to flatter the attendants.
At first, women look for ways to make money without an adult relationship (intimate), so they try paid drinking parties, become lounge hostesses, or work at men’s esthetic massage parlors.
But making money consistently is insanely difficult. Consistently. Consistently. I’ve said it three times because it’s important.
That’s why even an unimpressive middle-aged guy like me can end up in a papa-katsu arrangement with lounge hostesses and men’s esthetic massage workers.
By the way, the competition for paid drinking parties is Universe’s A-type girls.
With a Universe A-type girl, you can have an incredibly fun time for under ¥10,000 an hour. You can travel together and even stay overnight. It’s several times more enjoyable than paid drinking parties.
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I’m Potassium.
I didn’t know “gala drinking” was a thing! And it’s actually popular?
I joined because I wanted to become close with older men, work on becoming a better woman, gain knowledge and culture, and hear all kinds of stories.
I’ve only used the club, and I’m currently taking a break. Since I didn’t join in the first place to make money, reading this Q&A made me realize, “Oh, so there are girls like that too.” I learned something!
Thank you.
I think the questioner’s approach is very rational if the goal is to make money, and I don’t think it’s a bad way of thinking at all.
That said, whether you do it or not doesn’t necessarily determine whether you’ll receive a high allowance. Some people receive a high allowance without doing it, and monthly arrangements provide stability. So when you factor in the effort involved each time—and your own peace of mind—it may not actually be the most rational choice.
Just my personal opinion.
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Personally, I don’t think it’s particularly popular, but if that’s what you think, then good luck with paid drinking meetups.
Unless you’re exceptionally cute, you probably won’t get invited. And if you don’t have good conversation skills, your rating won’t go up and you likely won’t get repeat bookings.
It’s a very competitive, individual-based business, so hopefully you won’t run into anyone scary.
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There’s nothing wrong with your way of thinking.
No one is going to criticize you for it.
That said, as Early pointed out, papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) and paid social drinking were never really things that could be compared in the first place.
Hostess clubs were hit hard by COVID, and the whole industry ended up in a difficult situation.
But there’s still demand from men who want to have drinks with young women, so it seems like paid social drinking has started to catch on.
You could think of paid social drinking as the freelance, individually operated version of a hostess club.
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I’m currently using all of them, but people on both the men’s and women’s sides have their own ways of thinking and using them, so I don’t think the questioner’s approach is particularly right or wrong.
Personally, I mainly compare paid drinking parties to hostess clubs and lounges, so I use them more for seeing whether the atmosphere is fun in the moment than for building an ongoing relationship.
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I assume women sign up for an escort club because they want to date a papa (a male supporter) and receive an allowance.
If you feel that getting a substantial amount of money without having to do that is enough, then there doesn’t seem to be any reason to continue seeing the papa. So why do you continue?
Unlike the person asking this question, there are also many women who sign up for an escort club after experiencing paid social drinking.
The woman I was seeing found papas who only wanted someone to accompany them for meals and drinks, like at paid drinking events, boring—and said it was exhausting to spend hours drinking with them—so she cut them off.
Everyone has their own preferences, strengths, and weaknesses.
You’re free to feel that it’s better to receive a large amount of money without doing that. If paid drinking events are more comfortable for you, then I think you should stick with those.
If I’m going to pay someone to keep me company over drinks, I personally prefer Ginza clubs. The hostesses are professionals, so they have a wider range of conversation and are more interesting. The other male customers they introduce can be interesting too. And when you develop that kind of relationship, achieving something meaningful feels especially rewarding because there’s no allowance involved, even though you do have to spend money at the club.
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