Tips Aug 19, 2022 23:17

A longtime friend recently confessed that she joined this club and started doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).

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I felt uncomfortable, but I was prepared to accept that everyone has their own circumstances. However, she keeps persistently urging me to sign up, saying, “You can make a lot of money just by having dinner!” I don’t believe there’s any deal that sounds that good. She’s being so persistent that I’m thinking of cutting ties with her, but why do you think she’s pushing me so hard to join?
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It could be because there’s a referral fee involved, or for any of the reasons the other respondents mentioned. But if you want to cut ties, I think you should just do it. Some girls do receive a sufficient allowance for dinner only (no intimacy), so arrangements like that do exist, but they’re probably a very small minority overall. I also have someone I see outside the club for dinner only, but at this point I can’t tell whether we’re dating or just friends(笑). There are other people like me, too. You’re free to feel disgusted, but there’s no need to come all the way to a Q&A site like this. The reason doesn’t really matter—if you want to cut ties with someone, just cut ties. This year, I cut ties with someone for the first time in my life, over a work-related matter. Once it reaches the point where you’re cutting someone off, the reason doesn’t really matter anymore. I had no intention of resolving things or reaching mutual understanding, so there was no need to hesitate. I blocked every means of contact—not just LINE—and informed all our main mutual acquaintances about the situation at once. If you’re going to cut ties, I think you should do it thoroughly.
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I’m a female member, Potassium. Since no one else knows what kind of relationship you and your friend have, I felt that you could only use the question box as a source of information to analyze what benefits they might get from recruiting you. If it’s bothering you, though, wouldn’t it be easier to get an answer by asking her directly and judging from her reaction...? From Potassium’s perspective, my answer would depend on things like: - How close you actually were as longtime friends - Whether you shared similar values - What kind of personality she has - Whether she’s the type to post word-of-mouth reviews for free - Whether she’s very money-driven - Whether she’s the type to take the lead and pull others along It might also depend on whether you had ever talked to that former friend about financial problems, such as not having enough money or struggling to make ends meet, and whether you yourself are the shy, reserved type. Simply put, if she’s extremely money-driven, the type who can accept money or gifts from someone without feeling guilty, highly sex-driven, or very simplistic, then perhaps she’s after a referral fee. On the other hand, if she’s generally calm and somewhat thoughtful, writes reviews or shares various information without expecting anything in return—for logical reasons, for example—and feels guilty about papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), or if you had previously consulted her about financial problems, then maybe she genuinely thought, “You should try it once—it’ll change your life. Nothing else pays this well!” Perhaps she was thinking of you, wanted to ease her own guilt by bringing another person into the same boat, or simply wanted a friend she could talk to about papa-katsu. → Though, if she’s the type to casually bring up something like that, I’m not sure you could really call her thoughtful, lol. I don’t really know why she’s being so persistent. But if she doesn’t actually intend to be pushy, I think there’s also the possibility that it’s just an annoying form of unsolicited meddling—not necessarily about getting a referral fee or finding another person to join the same boat. Maybe that’s just wishful thinking.... If you want to cut ties so badly that you no longer even care about the reason, then I’m the type of person who would say that the relationship probably wasn’t very deep, no matter how long you’d been close. In that case, just cut ties! And if, after reading the answers in this question box, you feel that a friend who would sell you out for a referral fee isn’t really a friend, then she wasn’t your friend in the first place. You clearly don’t trust her either... That’s all your relationship amounts to. Come to think of it, “mujina” actually means a badger! To sum up: All this answer box can offer is speculation based on the possible benefits of introducing you, so it tells us nothing about the emotional reasons arising from the relationship between you and this former friend—nothing about why she might be trying to recruit you! ※I’ve left out the part about her being “persistent,” since that may only be how the questioner feels, and we don’t know whether the friend sees it that way. That’s just my personal opinion!
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Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
You’re probably being invited simply because there’s a system called Flein, and a close friend is encouraging you to join. As you suspect, there really aren’t that many opportunities where you can make a lot of money from dinner only (no intimacy). I’d say fewer than 10% of all the women registered with clubs are able to operate that way. That said, since it’s not completely untrue that some women do manage to do it, I wouldn’t go so far as to say your friend is lying… Ultimately, you should make your own decisions and accept responsibility for them.
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🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
> “You can make a lot just from going out to dinner!” In a sense, I think that’s true. To put it bluntly, I believe the allowance has far more potential when it’s dinner only. Why? Because an adult relationship (intimate) has no value in itself—not even a single yen, if you want to take it to an extreme. It’s the presence of an attractive woman that creates value, whether it’s an adult relationship or anything else, and that’s what leads to an allowance. Once you’ve had an adult relationship, the allowance for the adult relationship itself won’t increase any further. The reason it increases for people like Makeotoko and Early is that they find value in the woman’s presence. The same goes for gifts and celebrations. > “Why do they keep pushing it so insistently?” I honestly have no idea. That said, the women who join under those circumstances—perhaps because they heard from friends that it was lucrative—never seem to have things work out the way they expected.
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That sounds like an unpleasant experience. They were probably saying it either to get a referral fee or to ease their own guilt with a “there’s safety in numbers” kind of attitude. I think it’s perfectly fine to cut ties with them.
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スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
If you’re struggling financially, you should read through this Q&A carefully and give papa-katsu a try. I believe I at least make the women who meet me happy.
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Maybe it’s because she gets a referral fee. Also, your friend may genuinely be making money from dinner-only (no intimacy) dates and has had some success with it. She probably thinks, “You can make money and have a good time, so you should try it!” You should be clear and tell her, “I’m sure you have your reasons, and I’m not judging you, but I have no intention of doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), so please don’t invite me again.”
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
> I don’t believe deals that good exist. I don’t know what you look like, so if you mean that it wouldn’t be possible based on your appearance, then maybe you’re right. But apparently, some people receive a generous allowance just for dinner only (no intimacy). Just because you can’t do something doesn’t mean it’s impossible for everyone else. > This friend is being so persistent that I’m thinking of cutting ties with them. If that’s how you feel, I think you should cut ties immediately. This isn’t something you should be asking about here. Block them right away.
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🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
They’re probably selling out their friends for the affiliate referral fees. https://frein.jp/ ⬆️ I included the URL because it’s related to Universe. Please remove it if there’s a problem. I once introduced an acquaintance who wanted to do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) to Universe, but I declined the referral fee. ※ I was relieved when she ended up getting two dates. Maybe I also wanted to make more papa-katsu friends to lessen my own guilt about doing papa-katsu.
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I think it’s because they get a referral fee and want to bring more people like themselves into it.
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