What exactly does “type fraud” mean?

I’m Potassium, a female member. As the other respondents said, this refers to women who register as Type B, C, D, or E, claiming “I’m open to an adult relationship,” even though they never intended to pursue one in the first place. As a fellow female member, I wish people would stop misrepresenting their type, because it causes trouble for both men and women. Of course, it disappoints men when someone lies simply because she wants more offers. But I also think these women are responsible for creating an environment where, even when a woman turns a man down after meeting because they don’t click, she gets accused of misrepresenting her type. So if the asker has experienced this—especially if she was exposed—please report it to the club’s management. If the club’s system becomes stricter in the future and women who turn someone down because they don’t click end up getting caught in the consequences, that would be unfortunate. But as long as women like this exist, I suppose the rest of us have to put up with it. That’s the real world, I guess. The fact that she never considered the consequences of lying, and felt no guilt about it, shows an alarming level of darkness, deceitfulness, and lack of consideration for others. I think it’s fine to tell plenty of harmless lies that make someone happy or bring them joy, as long as they don’t get found out. But lying in a way that involves other people and causes them trouble is absolutely despicable, in my opinion. That’s just my personal view.

If we start calling things “catfishing over someone’s type,” then I feel like there are actually quite a few people who fall into that category. Speaking from experience, lol. Since it’s about what’s in someone’s heart, you honestly never know. But I’m not spending my time and money policing every case of type fraud, so I can only search in a way that suits my own goals, lol. Like Kazu said, sometimes something good can come from a lie, so I guess all you can do is take each opportunity as it comes. It’s also true that you can find a good match after getting through countless dead ends, lol. ABCD is just an initial guideline people are made to choose from. Women aren’t simple enough to be neatly divided into ABCD categories. Of course, those choices do reflect genuine motives, so they’re still quite useful as a rough guide, lol. There’s definitely some fraud and lying involved, but men come with their share of fraud and lies too, so I don’t think it’s easy for women either. Men shouldn’t rely too heavily on the alphabet system, either. If they don’t pay attention to each woman’s individual feelings, they’ll probably just take the long way around, lol. Though what do I know? Hahaha.

It all depends on how the man takes it. Even if the woman comes clean, a man targeting the C or D type would probably simply think, “What a hassle,” and wouldn’t be interested in her true intentions or whether the situation could be turned around. For a man targeting the A or B type, though, things like this are nothing unusual. He might find motivation in figuring out how to understand and unravel the situation, bring about a change, take on the challenge—or decide to give up. He may even see potential for turning things around. In short, even with the same woman and the same circumstances, it may be a complete mismatch for some men, while others may not find it particularly uncomfortable. Some men may even enjoy the challenge. It depends greatly on how the man perceives things and the impression the woman picks up from him. Since it can vary so much from one man to another, it’s difficult to judge—and I don’t think there’s really any need to. No matter how strongly the man feels about it, or how many complaints or details he provides, the woman can simply dismiss him by saying, “He wasn’t for me.” Reaching any definite conclusion is practically impossible. Even so, at the very least, an opportunity to meet was created. From that perspective, I think it’s fair to say that the club succeeded in bringing the two of them together. By making many such efforts, people will eventually have genuinely good encounters, and the chances of that happening should increase. Considering the club’s efforts—and that the woman also pushed herself to make it work, even if some may be remarkably calculating or outrageous—I don’t think it’s something worth getting worked up over. If anything, you could take a more positive view: the club went out of its way to find women like that, including women who seemed almost like ordinary newcomers. That broadens the possibilities for both men and women. In any case— Even if a man ends up wasting time meeting a woman, I don’t think he necessarily wastes his money.

My absolute favorite girl (my ace) was a type scam. She had no intention whatsoever of having an adult relationship, yet she was registered as Type C. That was at the staff member’s recommendation. I set up dates with about ten women, and every one of them turned down an adult relationship. It took around three months before she and I entered into one. Her overwhelmingly attractive looks, great personality, enjoyable conversation, and stunning physique once we became intimate completely drew me in before I knew it—and that’s how things have continued to this day. Even now, we have an adult relationship about once every two months. The “former ace” I’m currently seeing without an allowance while she works hard on her entertainment career was also a type scam. She was Type C as well. On our very first date, she casually and unapologetically told me that she had absolutely no intention of having an adult relationship. I use the word “absolutely,” but she is the most beautiful woman in Universe history. Her beauty is so unmistakable that I’m overwhelmed by it every time we meet. She has a great personality, too. I don’t think an ordinary papa could even hold a conversation with her. I’ve been around the block since I was young, and even I was left breathless when I met her. Still, when someone is that beautiful, I can’t really complain about a type scam—even if it means no adult relationship on the first date. The two women above are representative examples of Type C type scams. The following are women registered as Type B despite having no intention of an adult relationship. I run into this fairly often. Maybe it happens because I don’t want to choose women who have low barriers to an adult relationship in the first place. ■ She refused even to meet after I offered 13 for an adult relationship through a letter date She was a Type B woman. When I told her the allowance amount (13) through a letter date, she said something along the lines of, “I’m considering an adult relationship very carefully,” and then refused to meet because my offer apparently didn’t meet her desired amount. I offered dinner at 2 per hour, for a maximum of four hours—in other words, up to 4 for a single dinner date. I assume she was dissatisfied with the amount offered for dinner. ■ She wouldn’t even let me discuss the allowance When I tried to tell her the usual allowance for an adult relationship through a letter date, she said, “If you’re looking for an adult relationship, please approach another woman.” It sounded kind of interesting, so I went to dinner with her. Afterward, she really took a liking to me and repeatedly contacted me asking to meet again. But she wasn’t my type looks-wise, so I gradually faded out. ■ A Type B woman who was open to an adult relationship only as a threesome This happened quite a while ago, but she was a college student who was registered as Type B despite not being open to an adult relationship. We spoke on the phone about three times through a letter date, and she quietly mentioned the mysterious condition that she would be okay with a threesome. So, without even having a dinner date, our first date was a threesome with her friend. She was afraid to have dinner alone with an older man, and intimacy was out of the question. But she was okay with a threesome involving a female friend who could act as a bodyguard. It was a variant of a type scam. ■ She fell seriously in love with me and refused an adult relationship I’m not sure whether you could call this a type scam, but she was a Type C woman. I had already told her the allowance for an adult relationship through a letter date, and I met her after declaring, “Since you’re Type C, I’ll invite you from the first day.” We hit it off over dinner, and thinking I’d made the perfect catch, I smoothly invited her to continue things privately. To my surprise, she turned me down. After that, she kept inviting me to continue on to a second and third venue, and we ended up dating for around eight hours. She would keep sneaking glances at my profile when she thought I wasn’t looking. It turned out she had fallen in love with me at first sight, and she told me, “I didn’t want you to think I was an easy woman if we entered into an adult relationship right away.” She is the only woman I’ve ever met who refused an adult relationship. A year later, we reunited and eventually entered into one, and we’re still together. But because of her, I developed a fear of Type C women, which has stayed with me to this day. There were plenty more type scams, but this is already getting too long, so I’ll stop here.

> Do you mean women who plan to meet for dinner only once or twice at first and have no intention of pursuing a relationship with anyone? We can’t know what’s in someone’s heart. That said, meeting for dinner once or twice and then parting ways under Type B is essentially how Type B is supposed to work. It simply means they didn’t click with the man, so things ended there. To begin with, the whole question of whether this is “type fraud” was raised by men. It started when men began complaining that they should have been given a more thorough explanation, almost like an interview. For example, a woman registered as Type C may meet a man and decide that he lacks personal cleanliness and that she couldn’t continue seeing him after dinner. In that case, the man may make a fuss and accuse her of fraud, but it isn’t fraud at all. They simply didn’t click. Most men probably understand this and think, “She’d never actually say that to me.” But when a woman turns down an invitation, men often ask why. The woman won’t say, “I can’t stand your face” or “You’re not clean enough for me.” She tries to find a way to decline without hurting the other person’s feelings. But sometimes she can’t think of a reason. In those situations, she may use a standard excuse such as: “I only ever do dinner dates, so I can’t have an adult relationship (intimate).” Then the man may feel like he’s caught her out and tell the club, “This woman is a fraud!” Some men explain the situation kindly, while others demand their money back because they claim it was fraud. Some even insist that the club reimburse the meal and the hotel they reserved. A hotel reservation…? That makes you wonder. But in reality, that woman may have adult relationships with other men. It was simply an excuse to turn him down. That’s why it’s extremely difficult to determine whether something is truly fraud. Clubs also explain the different relationship types to women quite carefully. I’m sure there are women who genuinely commit type fraud. But, as I explained above, some women are misunderstood because they were merely using an excuse to decline. So please don’t immediately ask, “What do you mean?” When the person who asked the question was turned down, I’d like them to consider whether perhaps they simply weren’t a good match. > No, no—there really are women who genuinely commit relationship-type fraud. I’m sure there are, which is why clubs make sure to explain the relationship types properly. In fact, they explain them so thoroughly that I sometimes worry the women may wonder, “Is this really a dating club?” What I was saying is that even when a man claims a woman committed type fraud, there have been cases where that wasn’t actually what happened. I don’t tell the man this, but sometimes I find myself thinking, “She gets along perfectly well with other men…” I think more women are honest with Mac about how they really feel, so he may be able to tell from that. In general, though, it can be quite difficult to know.

Exactly. But if a man finds a woman attractive, I think things can develop into a relationship—so it simply means he doesn’t have enough appeal. I’ve been there too. I’m not exactly a charming guy myself (sigh).

Exactly. It seems to refer to registering on a Type B platform even though you have no intention of letting things develop into an intimate relationship. But since what someone truly intends is an issue of their own inner thoughts, all anyone else can do is speculate. Apparently, there are also cases where someone starts out with no intention of becoming intimate and tries to keep things going with transportation money alone, but then meets a man who seems like he might be worth considering, and things develop from there—a kind of “truth coming from a lie.”