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Aug 12, 2022 21:56
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Recently, I’ve been going to interviews for several part-time jobs, but I haven’t had much luck getting hired.
I applied for another one today.
(It’s a cleaning job.)
Do men look down on women who work in cleaning?
I know the truth, really.
I know what I should choose if I want to make money, and I know what kind of choice I should make.
But part of me still wants to hold on to working during the day.
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Other
Women in their 20s and 30s also come to clean at my workplace, so I don’t see anything wrong with it.
If you’re in your 20s, there are places that accept people with no experience, but many of them can have pretty exploitative working conditions, so please be careful.
Other
I think it’s perfectly normal to prefer a regular day job, and cleaning is a respectable profession.
There’s a famous story that goes like this:
When President Kennedy visited NASA’s space center, he spotted a janitor holding a broom and asked what he was doing.
The man replied, “Mr. President, I’m helping put a man on the moon.”
Mark Zuckerberg also brought the story up again in a commencement speech to Harvard graduates.
Stories like that are inspiring, but personally, I’d love it if someone wrote “Cleaning Lady” in the occupation field. It’s the title of that famous song by Utagodan.
“One day’s work, two thousand yen!
Covered in crap, two thousand yen!”
I’d think a woman who wrote something like that was pretty unusual, but it would definitely catch my interest. I think it shows a wonderful strength—the ability to turn the aspects of your own profession that people might find intriguing into a joke. Of course, it depends on your personality, but if you’re not going for the standard, conventional persona, slipping in something like this could be a good idea.
Taro
Other
Women who work in cleaning jobs are wonderful.
One of my papa supporters used to work part-time in cleaning at a place where I worked before. Of course, our time there didn’t overlap since he was in college back then…
He recently told me that he learned a lot from that job.
I hope you get accepted.
Marika
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with women working in cleaning.
It’s a very important job.
I also don’t think there’s anything wrong with women doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
I just believe it’s better not to live a life that depends entirely on papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Just as Aya says, men are idiots who tend to assume that someone must have a good personality if they look attractive...
Other
Please don’t take a job with so many elderly people.
When I worked at a hospital, I remember the cleaning staff saying, “We can only work during these set hours, but we can’t leave until the work is finished.” They said they were only paid hourly for those scheduled hours, and anything beyond that was basically volunteer work.
You’re still in your twenties, so try applying for a regular office job. If you’re in your twenties, many places will teach you from scratch, even if you don’t have any experience.
Maybe you’re not looking at job listings the right way. There are plenty of positions that say “no experience necessary” and offer thorough training.
Also, please stick to daytime work.
Other
I’m Potassium, one of the female members.
Honestly, I think it’s wonderful that you’re working so hard. Being short on money is painful, of course, but I sometimes wonder if you also feel disgust toward the idea—or perception—of selling yourself for money. I think that’s probably a normal and healthy reaction.
I’ve only been doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) for a few months myself, and I still wonder whether getting involved in this world was really the right thing to do.
Going back and forth between the regular world and this one, the inferiority complex I feel when standing beside friends who are living honestly on income from ordinary jobs really takes a toll on me.... Meeting a good papa (a male supporter) and experiencing the joy of being loved are wonderful, but I’m terrified that, because I’m not earning money through conventional means, the values and feelings I used to have are gradually wearing away.
In my case, I started papa-katsu after falling in love for the first time, giving him my virginity, and then finding out he was married. It was so painful that I just wanted to be loved by someone—anyone—whether physically or in any other way. That’s how it began for me. (I never told my papa that directly, and he didn’t ask when I registered, so I didn’t mention it.) It’s such a silly reason, isn’t it.....
Anyway, I’ve ended up talking about myself, but I like people who work in cleaning. (Sorry, I don’t mean men specifically.) I also think that people who take pride in whatever work they do and are serious about something have more beautiful hearts than people who earn far more money.
That said, when life really becomes difficult, I think it’s okay to try papa-katsu within whatever boundaries you’re comfortable with, if only as a life experience. You have to do what you have to do when you’re desperate.
Trust your heart and keep going.
I can’t do much, but I’m rooting for you.
> Mr. Mac
I’ve read quite a lot of your past answers, and I had no idea that Megumi had been through something like that.
Recently, I’d started wondering whether someone like me should even be doing papa-katsu, since some people on the Q&A site seem to dislike money-related discussions and anything that sounds too idealistic. So I felt a little reassured seeing that someone else had gone through something similar.
I found a good papa, and I don’t think about that man nearly as much as I used to anymore.... Still, so I wouldn’t repeat the same mistake, I’ve been making sure to set things up so that I can keep my relationship with my current papa transactional through the allowance and feel comfortable with that arrangement.
I hope that someday I can heal emotionally and become the best kind of friend—someone I truly respect—to my papa.
For a little while longer, I’ll continue leaning on my papa, the club, and this Q&A site.
Thank you for sharing such a valuable story. m(_ _)m
Other
>Do you dislike women who work as cleaners?
It’s not really a matter of liking or disliking someone because she works in cleaning. Men first look at whether she has the appearance they’re attracted to. Personality comes second. That’s all.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
If that’s what you care about, shouldn’t it be irrelevant what men think?
If someone takes pride in their work, I think any job is admirable—as long as it doesn’t involve deceiving others.
I’ve offered to meet with a woman who worked in cleaning before.