What’s a polite way to ask a top-tier woman how much she charges per meeting?

This might actually be a surprisingly well-crafted bait question, haha. Setting aside whether it’s a shady situation or not, say you meet the most amazing woman you’ve ever encountered. Then, if things seem like they could work out depending on the terms, the question is what terms you would propose, right? In that situation, I wouldn’t name a figure myself. I’d get her to state her price and simply agree to it. Whether it’s 10 or 100, that’s my problem afterward, isn’t it? If she’s the type who won’t name a figure herself—which is fairly common—I’d probe gently, saying something like, “Usually it’s around 4, but you, Ms. XX”—deliberately using her name—“are on a completely different level, so I feel like this isn’t really the same kind of conversation. I honestly don’t even know what I should say,” while cheerfully fumbling around. If I didn’t want to take the risk of saying “usually 4,” I might put it more objectively, like, “I’ve heard the going rate is 5.” In any case, I’d keep the conversation going patiently, presenting reference information while leaving the decision up to her. Of course, I’d be observing her the entire time. In a sense, the situation puts pressure on the other person, which tends to reveal their true nature. People can convince themselves of things based on misunderstandings, and I’m especially prone to that myself—Meruhen Taro—so if I find through verification that my assumption was wrong, I correct it immediately. I apply the same process internally that academic papers go through before being accepted after peer review. Taro

I’d love to see a crossover showdown between Make-Otoko and Paper Airplane, with the allowance fixed at ⑩. I’m curious what kind of match it would turn into.

“Black” and “Platinum” are just classifications decided by the club; there isn’t actually that much difference between the women themselves… I guess the person asking the question doesn’t really understand that. By the way, I don’t want to get into an allowance debate, but… When I was a Black member, I made an offer to a woman in her 20s with a G-cup who was a secret Black member and had received more than 30 offers. We’ve continued meeting for over a year now, with an allowance of ¥50,000 per meeting. Even if she were Premium Black, I’d still make an offer if I was interested. I’d invite her on the same ¥50,000 pay-per-meeting basis. If we don’t click, we simply say goodbye. I’ve made more than 50 offers myself, and I’ve wasted a fair amount of money on offers that didn’t work out. So at this point, I’m not going to limit my offers only to people who seem likely to work out. P.S. To “Mr. Loser”: The secret Black woman was a former member. We’re close enough to talk openly about our other dating partners, so I don’t think she’d lie about something like that. I agree that we’re not each other’s usual type.

I’d like to say 100, but given how much allowances have dropped lately, I don’t think offering 80,000 yen for two hours would be disrespectful. Two hours for 70,000 yen might be a little tough, though. That said, apparently there are some iron-hearted papas (male supporters) who offer 50,000 yen for three hours and two rounds. I’m a chicken, so I make offers of 100,000 yen or more. Also, I don’t want anyone to dodge the “how much per meeting?” debate, so let me state this clearly: ① A young, active model ② Slim, but with a fuller bust ③ More than 20 offers within three days of registering ④ A premium price of 150,000 yen ⑤ Letter dates not accepted Nobody is going to apply to a woman like this with a pay-per-meeting allowance of 50,000 yen. Zero. When it’s obvious you’ll be screened out based on the allowance, nobody is stupid enough to pay the 150,000-yen setting fee for nothing. People who believe “50,000 yen pay-per-meeting is justice” only make offers to women who seem likely to accept 50,000 yen. P.S. Thanks for the shout-out, Firemaker-san（笑） I suspect we both use our conversational skills as our main weapon. If a premium Black girl around 20 registered somewhere in Osaka, it might be fun if Paper Airplane-san, Dai-san, and I all made offers at the same time. I’d be totally up for it♡ (pun intended). But it wouldn’t be interesting unless she were a B-type closer to A, or an A-type. What do you think, Firemaker-san?（笑） What I’m looking for in a dating club is “the fear of being rejected.” I’m always perfectly prepared and offer a relatively high allowance, so I’ve never once been turned down after meeting someone. Not a single exception. I make new offers because I’m thinking, “What if she rejects me?” When I imagine being rejected, it feels like I’d lose everything—and that thrill is irresistible. There are plenty of beautiful women at lounges, but I go in expecting to be rejected, so there’s zero sense of fear. It seems fun, but it really isn’t. Because there’s nothing to be afraid of. In that sense, Dai-san and I may not be compatible stylistically, so facing off against Paper Airplane-san sounds fun. That said, Dai-san’s approach is basically the opposite of mine. He enjoys the feeling of “I tried, and she said yes!” As a way of enjoying dating clubs, I found that incredibly convincing—like, “Ah, I see.” I feel like Dai-san and I would hit it off instantly if we had a drink together, so I’d love to do that sometime. People with different styles can respect each other more easily, which is why they often become friends. If Dai-san’s premium Black girl is still active at the dating club, I’d like to make an offer and get connected with her. P.S. To be honest, I don’t think for even one millisecond that I could lose to Paper Airplane-san. Why? Because Paper Airplane-san isn’t even stepping up to the plate, right? He hasn’t made any new offers. As Galileo-sensei says, hypotheses and personal theories are meaningless unless they’re tested. So go ahead and actually pay the 150,000-yen setting fee, then show us what you can do with a 50,000-yen pay-per-meeting offer. And do it with about three women, too. Just stirring the pot♡

Regardless of who the other person is or whether it’s pay-per-meeting or a monthly arrangement, I think it’s rude to ask, “How much?”

The very idea of “how much money will satisfy her?” is already disrespectful. You need to let go of the notion that women who are especially money-minded can be satisfied with money alone. Aim to become the kind of man who can truly resonate with her for 50,000 yen! And honestly, a woman’s true feelings are that she won’t be genuinely moved by what a club man does for her with money. It only comes close to being moving when you factor in things beyond money as well. > Mac I think it’s far more important to become the kind of man who can resonate with and make an impression on her—even at 50,000 yen—than to focus on the allowance. Especially if you don’t want to miss out on a lifelong connection… Without that, you may end up needing to offer several times more in allowance. > Makeo Women like that are often perfectly happy with 50,000 yen pay-per-meeting. You don’t even need to name an amount. In fact, factors other than money are what really matter.