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Jul 24, 2022 21:39
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The other day, a man I had a first date with through this site offered me an allowance of 20,000 yen for a hotel date.
Is it really this low for women in their 40s?
It seemed far too little, so I talked it over with him and managed to get 40,000 yen.
I’d really appreciate hearing from both male and female members.
Thank you in advance.
8 answers
Other
It wasn’t because of your age, and there’s nothing wrong with you. He was probably just a stingy man.
Otherwise, he wouldn’t have made you an offer in the first place. The fact that he made an offer and then treated you so rudely shows that he isn’t a very classy or considerate person in any situation.
Even at your age, there are people who will become completely taken with you, and I’m sure you’ll meet someone who makes you happy.
Still, I’m glad you didn’t let yourself be pressured into accepting 2 and end up feeling uncomfortable. You handled yourself wonderfully.
Akari
👨 Male
Universe member
Hmm, I’m in my 40s too, but I don’t think it’s really about the amount.
I think what matters is whether you yourself feel comfortable with it.
There are all kinds of people registered with dating clubs, so rather than focusing on the offer itself, maybe you should ask what kind of relationship you should pursue from here.
Here’s why:
I’ve heard that some people don’t receive any offers at all. You should make the most of the opportunity.
Some male members may offer a generous amount, but in this case, it’s unclear whether it will lead to a next meeting.
Generally speaking, other people’s opinion of you isn’t as high as you might think.
People will probably suggest all sorts of options, like:
- Turn him down right away
- Just have tea at a hotel
- Just allow some touching
- Just one quick round
That kind of question would be more interesting—both as a question and in terms of actually trying it out(笑)
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
College women around 20 think exactly what you’re thinking when a papa offers them 5 for an adult relationship:
“Is my worth as a 20-year-old really only 5?”
I hate making them feel that way, and I feel bad about it, so I only make offers of 10 or more to women I feel are worth that much on a pay-per-meeting basis.
Every now and then, people take digs at me or at Top Gun from the Kobe branch—one of the top 1%—saying our allowances are too high or that we’re imagining things. I welcome the criticism, but at the same time I sigh and think, “This person is really stupid.” And that’s saying something, considering even someone as stupid as me thinks they’re stupid.
Nobody would offer pre-marriage Gakki or Satomi Ishihara 5 per meeting, right? Well, maybe they’d make that offer because they’re stupid? No, surely they’re not that stupid.
In the end, papas who offer 5 per meeting are only making offers to women they think will accept 5. They may come up with all kinds of excuses because they don’t want to admit it, but people around them can see the situation clearly.
The papa who offered you 2 per meeting was probably looking for someone who would accept 2. But after meeting you, he thought, “I’d like to have H with her at least once, even if I have to pay 4 per meeting.” Still, you can’t spend money you don’t have, so continuing the arrangement may be difficult.
Early, Top Gun, and I simply make offers to women like Gakki and Satomi Ishihara—women who wouldn’t even consider us at 5 per meeting—so naturally our allowances end up being higher.
For the sake of my character, I’m always saying that “my allowances are high,” but honestly, that’s not how I see it. In my head, I’m thinking:
“No, no, no—I’m just targeting women who would find it disrespectful to receive an offer of 5 per meeting.”
Everyone has pride that they value even more than their body, and I don’t make offers that would hurt a woman’s pride. Though I do occasionally end up doing so.
I’ve offered 12–13 per meeting through Letter Date, and two women turned me down. I think my offers hurt their pride.
Please decide your own worth for yourself. If you don’t like the amount offered, turn it down. If you have H with such a stingy man, you’ll end up attracting bad luck.
If you decide your worth is 4, turn down anyone offering 3 immediately.
There’s no need to compare yourself with others, so stop asking questions here about this.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
I’d be happy to hear from both male and female members.
This wording seems like something posted by the usual person who just wants attention in the Q&A section and is conducting a survey.
I’m not really sure whether an allowance can go from 2 to 4. I’m also not sure where this story came from.
But if it’s true, and you’re capable of negotiating your allowance up to 4, then I don’t think you need to be asking here.
Going forward, just keep receiving an allowance you’re satisfied with. If you’re not satisfied, you can simply decline and leave.
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Will you continue with that papa? Do you think he’ll ask you out again?
I think the chances are low.
Hopefully you’ll get an offer from another papa.
Other
Are there really men who try to take advantage of you just because you’re in your 40s?
They’re just poor men who want to skimp on the offer fee and the dating allowance, so go ahead and turn them down first by saying, “No, thank you.”
You probably got 40,000 yen this time, but I doubt there’ll be a next time. Drop that small-minded man.
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
You did well to turn the allowance they initially offered as 20,000 yen into 40,000 yen.
I’m impressed by your negotiation skills.
They probably tried to take advantage of you because you’re in your 40s, but if you’re not satisfied, all you have to do is turn it down, just as you did this time.
Other
It’s probably less about being in your 40s and more about the financial means of the man you’re seeing. Or maybe it’s simply a matter of how he views relationships.
Marika
P.S. Mack,
“I ended up with a stupid partner who doesn’t know her own worth.”
That’s exactly what I’m thinking, lol.