I went on an overnight trip with a papa (a male supporter) I usually meet for an allowance of 50,000 yen per meeting, but he gave me the same amount for the trip.
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He must have had various expenses, like the hotel, transportation, and meals, but isn’t 50,000 yen too little for spending more than a full day together?
I didn’t need souvenirs—I would have preferred cash.
When it comes to an actual trip, shouldn’t the allowance be more than usual?
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Let’s confirm it beforehand.
It’s something both sides need to agree on.
If that’s what you want, you need to tell them in advance how much allowance you’re looking for. Otherwise, they won’t know.
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I don’t give anything particularly generous. I offer the allowance for an adult relationship (intimate), but we don’t necessarily have one every time. Also, I don’t initiate invitations to travel.
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You didn’t enjoy yourself, then?
Was it simply a difference in hobbies or interests?
But traveling can be quite expensive. And if you want the men you see to give you a higher allowance, why not approach it as an investment?
Your allowance may be low at first, but it’s a way to make sure your partner enjoys himself—and have a large amount come back to you later. If he was stingy from the start, you probably won’t get much more out of him. But what if he’s actually a hidden big spender…?
Whether you can “develop” a man depends on you.
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Exactly as Makeo-san and Mac-san wrote.
If neither of you is having fun, you’re better off parting ways.
If you’re enjoying yourselves, it won’t feel cheap. And you’d probably prefer a man who feels like giving you a little extra when he’s had a good time.
A man who thinks, “She enjoyed herself, so the allowance should be enough as it is,” isn’t suited to papa-katsu. Conversely, a woman—and I include myself—who thinks, “If I enjoyed myself, I’d want to give something extra too,” whether financially or in some other way, is suited to papa-katsu.
If you normally have great sex, and were able to fully enjoy the trip without specifically having an adult relationship during it, then it might not have been cheap, but…
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Even if you only get the usual 5 per pay-per-meeting arrangement while traveling, I sometimes think you should put up with it if he’s a good papa who normally meets you every week for 5 each time.
And if someone as harsh as I am about low allowances is saying that, you know it’s true lol.
But if he’s a low- to average-paying papa who only meets you once or twice a month for 5 each time, tell him:
“5 is too low.”
By the way, I’ve never had an adult relationship (intimate) while traveling. Since it takes up so much time, I ask for an adult-relationship allowance (10+), but I don’t have an adult relationship. I simply enjoy the trip. I’m always amazed watching everyone and wondering, “How badly do you guys want to orgasm?”
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There’s no point in asking other people here what they think.
If you felt the allowance was too low, you could tell him so, decline any invitations to travel together in the future, or end things with him.
Personally, I’ve experienced everything from no allowance to 50,000 or 100,000 yen for a one-night, two-day trip. I discuss the allowance before making travel plans.
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Hmm… this comes up from time to time（笑）
Well, the papa (a male supporter) probably should have given you a generous allowance, but I think he’s a wealthy, confident man.
He probably figured that since you’d traveled together, enjoyed the scenery and some delicious food, and gotten to feel rich, you’d be too hesitant to accept an allowance anyway. Even though he had cash in his pocket, he likely decided that you’d go home feeling happier if you simply parted ways without him giving you anything.
If you can’t understand this papa’s feelings, you may be better off quitting papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan). The next time you see him, just ask, “Why didn’t you give me more allowance?” I’m sure he’ll say the same thing I did（笑）
Then it’ll be, “You wanted more? Oh, was that it?” From there, the two of you can talk it over properly.
In any case, just like in this answer, I hope you can make it an enjoyable relationship that benefits you both.
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Looks like you all travel quite a bit〜! I’m jealous!
COVID is making the rounds again, so please be careful!
If the souvenir you bring back is COVID, I might just burst into tears〜!
Next time I get invited, I’ll reply, “I might go if you give me 100♪” ☆
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For a pay-per-meeting arrangement, they should be giving you around 100,000 yen. You need to confirm that before going on the trip. Once you let it slide, it may be hard to change things.
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