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Jul 16, 2022 21:56
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I was surprised and disappointed that everyone thought I was lying, but I wasn’t. I’m sorry for simply being ignorant of how things work. I often see pay-per-meeting 50,000 yen mentioned in the Q&A box, but I’ve never actually been offered that amount, so it had been bothering me for a while and I decided to ask. I’m sorry to anyone who found my question unpleasant.
I’m grateful that most of the men I’ve dated have given me an allowance of 100,000 yen or more per meeting, and I hope to continue enjoying these relationships. Thank you for your answers.
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Other
A moment ago, you said you were a woman.
And now you’re a man? Isn’t that strange?
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m not offended or anything.
I just wondered why you were asking when you’re already getting 100,000 yen or more per pay-per-meeting arrangement and aren’t having any trouble finding partners.
🏅 日没を遅らせる唯一の方法は日没に向かって走り続けることだ
名古屋支店登録で、男性会員としての登録名もマックさんです。コラム多数書いてますのでよろしければご参照ください。20代の細身女性が好みで逆オファーには前向きです。経験無いまたは少ない方大歓迎。
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
Reading Early’s answer above got me thinking: if I were dealing with a polished, late-twenties papa-katsu girl who already has several papas, I might well go with a pay-per-meeting allowance of 100,000 yen too.
Early, I’m sorry for profiling you like this from time to time, but you seem to fit a certain stereotype to me. If it bothers you, please tell me off and I’ll stop doing it m(_ _)m
I think you like women who are the finished product—completely polished and perfect. That probably makes women worry that they’ll be discarded the moment something isn’t quite right. From your writing, I can somehow sense that you’re actually warmhearted and not necessarily like that, but even so, I don’t think women can completely shake that fear.
Personally, I enjoy finding unfinished products and helping shape them. As a way of identifying them, I look for women who are happy to accept 50,000 yen without hesitation. I like helping them grow, or rather, watching how they change over time.
I think I’ve just figured out one reason—even one I hadn’t realized myself—for why I’m so particular about 50,000 yen.
As for my answer to the questioner: even assuming the question wasn’t meant to provoke anyone, I’d say this situation is probably at its peak, so you shouldn’t expect it to last very long. Though I’m sure you already know that.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Among the women at Kobe’s TOP GUN and among my own monthly arrangements, there are one or two who have never even been offered an allowance of 10 or less.
In my case, Ace is one of them. Apparently, she once received 20 just for the first dinner meeting.
That said, you really don’t hear about that anymore these days. This year, I made an offer to an extremely popular “black” woman who was receiving offers nonstop, but half the men she met gave her 5–7, and I was the only one who offered 10 or more.
I think the reason some of the other respondents are thinking, “Huh?” is simply this: Would a woman who has only ever received 10 or more on a pay-per-meeting basis really come looking at anonymous question boxes—basically public bathroom graffiti?
You look at forums because you have something you’re worried about, right?
If you’ve only ever received 10 or more per meeting, you must be an ultra-high-class woman. So if you had a question, it would probably be:
“Why can I only get 10 per meeting?”
I can’t imagine any woman finding it strange that she receives a lot. After all, women probably really want to receive around 20 per meeting.
Other
Most of the respondents seem to be enjoying successful relationships through dating clubs, so I don’t think this series of questions made them uncomfortable.
That said, given the nature of this Q&A site, I imagine many people who have some concerns or questions about their relationships come here. Some may have taken it as bragging or trying to one-up others and felt uncomfortable.
Personally, I think the reason these questions received so many likes is that they could be seen as a campaign to raise one’s allowance.
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Mac,
Even though we’ve never met and have only interacted through comments, I’m always amazed by your insight(笑). When you’re wrong, I’ll push back and say so, but I have no problem with you analyzing me. It’s helpful in allowing me to look at myself objectively.
Regarding this matter, there is definitely some truth to the tendency you mentioned: “I think you prefer women who are the finished product—perfectly polished.” Many of the women I’ve been with, both in the past and now, do seem to fit that description.
You also said, “As a woman, she may worry that she’ll be discarded as soon as something is found wrong with her.” I mentioned this in response to an earlier question as well, but several of the women I’m seeing have said things along those lines to me. (That’s not the case, though(笑).)
I may have a stereotypical desire to follow the traditional path, both in business and in relationships.
I also think that my desire to be gentlemanly is driven less by consideration for women and more by my own ideals.
I believe I have an extremely strong sense of self-love.
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Yes, of course. It’s just the market at work—supply and demand. It’s similar to foreign exchange rates.
You must be really beautiful, questioner. There are probably lots of rival papas, so the allowance goes up.
That’s not the market I’m aiming for, though(笑)
Lately, I’ve been going under the market rate lol
It wouldn’t be interesting if market forces didn’t apply, right? I think that’s perfectly fine.
“Cute is justice.”
Be grateful that you’re able to receive so much.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
“No one’s even accused you of lying, yet you’re saying ‘everyone’? (lol)”
Other
I don’t think you’re simply out of touch with the world.
It’s just that a pay-per-meeting allowance of 50,000 yen was never realistic for you, right?! I don’t think you’re lying, either! Maybe it was just a little brag—or perhaps they were trying to one-up you…
If your arrangement is going well, I don’t think you need to worry about how much other people are getting. There’s always someone above you, so if you start comparing yourself to them, you’ll just end up thinking, “What about me…?”
That’s why it’s best not to worry about other people!
If you’re enjoying your current arrangement with your current allowance, that’s all that matters!