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Jul 10, 2022 00:25
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Other
If you give her the money, she’ll definitely disappear.
It sounds like she can afford to go overseas, so there’s no need for you to support her. Do you really trust her?
If you still want to give her money, do so only if you’re prepared to say goodbye immediately with nothing in return.
Also, cosmetic surgery apparently isn’t something you can finish in just one go, so she’ll probably keep asking you for money over and over.
So, what are you going to do, questioner...?
Other
In short, you want to keep her tied to you—and on top of that, you want her to become completely molded in your image?
It also feels like you want to keep the money to the bare minimum, lol.
The fact that you’re even asking here about giving her ¥1 million suggests you’d hate to do it unless you’re guaranteed something in return.
At the very least, a relationship where you openly communicate those expectations isn’t going to work.
You can come up with all the excuses you want, but why not honestly sort out your own ego separately from her feelings?
Other
I’ll say just this: regarding the photos of her naked while holding her driver’s license, if she consults the police, you could end up being arrested—or even exposed to your company. Are you really okay with that?
A woman in her early 20s who works at a delivery health service and wants plastic surgery may feel she has nothing to lose, so you honestly have no idea what she might do.
To be blunt, I think you should come to your senses.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
> “It’s not like anyone asked me to.”
A classic example of someone who thinks they’re important.
P.S. Maybe this won’t be called too long? LOL.
A～Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月１程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Personally, I came away with nothing but a negative impression of the person asking this question.
Is getting a regular daytime job really this woman’s ultimate goal, or is that just what you think she should want?
If it isn’t her goal, then rather than being someone supporting her, it sounds like you’re forcing your own idea of where her life should go onto her.
If you genuinely feel sorry for her and want to help her get cosmetic surgery, why not simply give her an allowance of over ¥1 million upfront?
Using it as leverage over a debt, making her hold her ID while taking photos of her completely naked—I would refuse even if I were offered ¥1 million.
I’d honestly rather go abroad and be with a wealthy foreigner who could pay me.
I also felt that you had some pretty strong biases when it comes to views on work and wealthy foreigners overseas.
Other
I’m not that woman, nor have I ever met her, so this is only speculation, but I think she would run if you simply gave her a substantial amount of money.
Why do you assume that the ultimate goal should be to get her into a regular day job? It’s meaningless if that isn’t what she wants. If she does want that and is willing to discuss it openly with you, then you could tell her that you hope she’ll eventually get there and that you want to support her. I’m not sure whether cosmetic surgery is really necessary, but she can get a regular job without having surgery.
And if you genuinely want to support her, I think you should give her the money without worrying about the risk of her disappearing or whether she’ll repay you. Taking nude photos of her as a form of control makes no sense to me. Her sense of money is already out of line with that of the general public.
After all, you’re the one who wants this. If a man thinks something is wrong, he can simply refuse.
There may well be women who truly want financial support, but I don’t think it’s something they can easily say out loud. And if someone did come along willing to support them, they would probably be grateful and return the favor in their own way.
So if you really want to support her, why not talk things over with her first and support her without expecting repayment?
Personally, I wouldn’t want to borrow or accept money from someone who took nude photos of me under the guise of “keeping me in check.” That would be much more frightening.
迷わない70代
Male
Send a reverse offer to this responder
パパ活歴11年目、回答者歴8年目の関西在住者。パパ活終活中（笑）
Age: 70 or older
👨 Male
Former Universe member
I’m a confused man in my 60s.
As Taro mentioned in his answer, this brought back some nostalgic memories for me too.
About 30 years ago, I met a female college student on a message board who was about to join a domestic airline. After she started working, she entertained me by showing me photos of herself in uniform while working at the ○○○ lounge and on her first OJT flight to Okinawa. She also gave me souvenirs from Paris flights.
Before long, though, she began asking me for money, always with one excuse or another. We had been seeing each other without any allowance or adult relationship, so I wondered what to do. I could have simply given her whatever she asked for, but I wasn’t sure that was the right thing to do.
For the time being, I asked her for her parents’ names and contact information as a substitute for a written loan agreement. Of course, I never checked them, and I had always assumed I wouldn’t need the money back. The total came to about 2.5 million yen.
But apparently, she did feel bad about borrowing the money. Later on, we discussed repayment, and she offered to repay me by becoming my mistress.
In the end, we were intimate only once. Soon afterward, she decided to get married, and she repaid me 2 million yen from the money her fiancé had given her for wedding preparations. We then ended the relationship.
Sorry for writing at such length, but the point is: just do whatever feels right to you. However, don’t try to collect money as collateral—it feels like that could lead to trouble.
If you like her, just give it to her outright!
👨 Male
Universe member
In my case, I got cosmetic surgery through my relationship with my female partner—while we were still seeing each other. It wasn’t paid for upfront, either…
I told her from the beginning that nothing intimate would happen, but in the end, she went ahead with it anyway.
As for how I look different compared with before the surgery, I honestly can’t see any difference at all (lol).
But… people who know what to look for can tell.
I’m an old man, but we’re still seeing each other after the surgery, so there’s no chance of her running off—I’m fine.
Far from leaving, it feels like this will just keep going indefinitely.
By the way, it took about three years of dating before I became an ex-handsome guy again, so I guess it depends on the woman you’re seeing… (lol)
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
It’s similar to how I met Ace.
She wasn’t selling her body, but she had a debt of around ⚫00万円 and was desperate, on the verge of hanging herself. In a fit of desperation, she signed up with Universe—and I was her first date.
Around our third date, I took over her debt, had a lawyer collect the IOU, and then let her off the hook.
I’ve done something similar for about three women. It may just be coincidence, but I’m extremely close with all three of them.
The key mindset is: “Don’t get the money back.”
Just give it to them.
I’ve never taken money back from any of them. When we have an adult relationship (intimate), I give them money separately. That’s precisely why I think they came to trust me and became close to me.
If someone tricks you out of your money, just earn it again.
Nude photos are out of the question. So are IOUs. Just give them the money. They’re not going to pay it back anyway.
In this world, you have to accept that people will run off with your money sometimes. Don’t be petty—help them out.
If they disappear, just earn it again. That’s all there is to it.
Everyone seems to absolutely hate Ace, but Ace raised me.
I was already good at approaching women, but meeting her taught me how to win over even very young, unbelievably beautiful women.
Women who are young, beautiful, and constantly pursued only have one real need. If you fulfill it, anyone can win over a stunning beauty.
Other
I’ve read your question. Please forgive me for being a little blunt.
You mentioned that she does papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), as well as working in the adult-entertainment industry and going abroad to earn money, to pay for cosmetic surgery and her student loans. As a woman myself, I get the impression that she’s the type who thinks, “I want to get my hands on a huge sum…”—in other words, she feels like a “professional.” I’m afraid she may disappear as soon as you give her the money.
If your ultimate goal is to help her transition to a regular day job, then helping with professional qualifications, changing jobs, or student loans would make sense. But why would you need to provide over one million yen for cosmetic surgery right from the start?
The idea of having her pose completely naked with a photo of her driver’s license is frightening as well. There’s a risk of personal information being leaked or revenge porn. Asking for something like that as a way to hedge against the risk of not recovering your investment also gives me the impression that you aren’t being very gentlemanly.
If I were in your position, I would make the arrangement conditional on the following:
- To show that you’re willing to cover the cosmetic-surgery costs, show her an envelope containing the amount she requested.
- However, explain that you first want to build trust, so you’d like to support her student-loan payments on a pay-per-meeting basis.
- Tell her that if the relationship continues until her student loans are fully repaid, you’ll give her the envelope containing the cosmetic-surgery money.
- If she agrees to that, ask her to stop going abroad to earn money, at the very least.
If she’s serious, these would be favorable terms, so she probably wouldn’t walk away. It would also limit your risk to the money you pay per meeting.
Sorry for the long answer. Thank you for reading to the end!
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを！
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中！
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです！
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
If you’re only going to do it half-heartedly, you’re better off not doing it at all.
Just hand her ¥1 million right away and say, “Hold on to this for me,” as if you’re prepared to never see it again.
You do it only if you like her enough to do that.
When you make no demands and set no terms, without expecting anything in return, that’s how you both become captivated by each other. Then she won’t ghost you or run away.
Show a little more generosity and backbone.
But he’s in his 50s, huh? If he’s never had that kind of experience before, he’d better not bother… I’m sure no inexperienced woman has ever been caught off guard by the way he spends money and thought, “Wow, what a man.”
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I think you need to calm down a bit.
I don’t understand what you mean by saying things like “developing human resources” or “I don’t want you to do that.”
And I have no idea what your reasoning is for saying that a foreigner’s dick is unacceptable, but yours would be fine.
Other
My first thought was, “At least use line breaks,” but maybe you thought pressing Enter would send it（笑). If you’re on a PC, draft it in Notepad or something, then copy and paste it before sending.
I read your question all the way through. It brings back memories—I went through a period when I felt the same way. From the outside, it may look foolish, but that kind of thing is part of middle-aged youth, too, and in the long run it can enrich your life, so I won’t stop you. I think you should go for it.
That said, there’s one thing to keep in mind: you may never get the money you put in back. Even if you come up with plans for recovering it, actually doing so would require becoming quite the villain, and the police generally won’t be very proactive with this kind of trouble either—it’s more of an ethical issue, after all. So be prepared for the worst-case scenario: the money may simply be gone. You should only give the go-ahead once you’ve considered your financial situation and decided you can handle that risk.
If you do decide to move forward, please feel free to ask questions at every step. I have a feeling she’ll probably refuse requests for nude photos（笑） or a photo of your driver’s license. The question box contains all kinds of opinions and answers, some good and some not so good, but I hope you’ll make use of its collective wisdom.
Taro
Other
With the money you give me, I think I’ll get plastic surgery and land an even better papa (male supporter). If you’re okay with that, please give me the money. I’m sure you’ll be happy.
Marika