Thank you as always. After reading the recent posts, I came across the term “generous papa” and understand it to mean a wealthy man who pays a high allowance and is generous. At Ginza clubs, there are men who commute to Ginza almost every day in chauffeur-driven Phantoms. Many of them appear to be executives in the [industry], [industry], or [organization] sectors. There is no way ordinary people could compete with them financially. They apparently spend over 10 million yen a month on drinks.

Even among generous (well-paying) papas, there’s a lot of individual variation, so I don’t think averages mean much in this world. If a woman has five papas who give her 5 per meeting and one who gives her 10, that one would be her “generous papa.” So, if you want to be a generous papa, the best approach is probably to ask your partner, “How much would you like?” and give her more than that as an allowance. If you just want to be an average papa, wouldn’t it be fine to simply give her 5 without asking? Also, “generous papa” and “good papa” aren’t exactly the same thing, so it’s worth keeping that in mind.

Average? What are you planning to do with that information? For example, if there are nine people receiving ¥50,000 and one person receiving ¥1,000,000, the average comes out to ¥145,000. Are you thinking you need to offer more because the average is ¥145,000? You just want to know the average, right? It’s not like this would actually change your own allowance, would it?

You can probably figure it out by looking through my past Q&A posts, but a typical papa’s allowance is probably “5.” That said, if he only meets you once or twice a month despite paying 5, he’s a low-paying papa. In my case, the girl on a three-digit monthly allowance gets a little over half of what the next girl gets, so I’m not sure whether I’m generous overall. That said, I think the girl on the monthly arrangement sees me as an easygoing papa, since we don’t meet very often. Over the course of our relationship, I’ve met the girl on the three-digit monthly allowance only a little over once a month on average, and we have an adult relationship (intimate) about once every three months. My way of enjoying it is basically: “I’m so cool—I’m paying a three-digit monthly allowance even though we only meet about once a month and hardly ever have an adult relationship.” It’s pure masturbation. I pretend to be a gentleman and indulge in that fantasy—or rather, “I enjoy playing that role” is probably the more accurate way to put it. Also, I’ve never been dumped by a woman after having an adult relationship with her multiple times, so I figure I’m probably someone they want to keep around as a papa. But I wonder what they really think. For a while, I had more regulars who worked at massage salons, but lounge hostesses have started encroaching on that territory, and a “massage salon girls vs. lounge girls” war has broken out in my head. The lounge girls seem to be winning by a landslide. This is just my personal impression, but despite their beauty, lounge hostesses don’t seem all that money-focused. Instead, they seem to strongly dislike anything that feels pushy or intimidating. Unlike my persona on the Q&A site, I transform into someone with zero pressure in everyday life, and I feel that’s why things go well with the lounge girls. They’re delighted if I give them 3 for a two-hour meal, and my adult arrangements are around 30 per month. So I don’t think I’m a generous papa or a big-spending customer to them. I’m probably more like “an older guy who’s easy to be around.” My biggest strength is conversation, so I make them laugh a lot and send them home feeling good.

A “generous papa” means a well-paying client. It’s a term used by money-minded women, and I deliberately use it when I can tell the person asking is that type. There are certainly wealthy men who spend staggering amounts on entertainment. But I imagine their main scene is clubs or members-only salons. I’ve also seen cases where someone like a private banker was personally arranging women for them. A long time ago, a girls’ bar in Nishi-Azabu—which was later raided—accidentally sent an email to its members with everyone CC’d. Shortly afterward, a dating club made the same mistake, and I ended up investigating the members’ backgrounds instead of doing my actual work. In the end, the girls’ bar crowd seemed more high-profile: people from TV stations, advertising agencies, and executives at listed companies. The dating club had more startup founders and owners of ordinary small and midsize businesses. As for what happens within dating clubs, there do seem to be men who rely on their financial power. I hear stories like that from women fairly often. But if a woman is telling you about it, that means she turned the man down. Of course, there are women who can be won over with money, but there are also quite a few who aren’t. I think the important thing is finding a woman who suits you. It’s enjoyable when you click, and if you get paid as well, that’s even better. I think there are quite a lot of women like that. My date the other day was at Torikizoku, at her suggestion（笑）. Oh, you mean the amounts? The usual rate is 50, and I put in a request for 40, one level below that. Anything under 30 feels like a very specialized world to me. I get the impression that people coached by scouts often ask for 70. When there are lots of offers, market forces gradually push the rate up. Even so, I’d say it tops out around 70–100—at least within the range I’ve seen. I don’t think there’s really a “going rate.” When a woman names an amount, it’s best not to forget the fact that you’re already sitting right in front of her. P.S. Mac-san, that’s incredible. Pay-per-meeting 50 and ¥3 million a month—does that mean you’re doing H 60 times a month? I instinctively started using polite language（笑）. Taro

Apparently, there are also incredibly generous papas in Kansai who spend three-digit amounts in a single day—and some of them don’t even expect an adult relationship… Before long, the women’s allowances skyrocket to several times what they received at their first meeting. Once that happens, papas like me, who pay under 50,000 yen, can no longer get their attention with an allowance, and we lose interest in meeting them too. No matter what we do, we can’t compete with the power of money… But as time goes by, we end up rushing over when they need someone to talk to—like errand boys or advisers—saying, “You don’t have to pay me.” Everything has changed so much since she first joined… That papa must have changed her entire life. And since she received an incredible number of offers, the number of papas willing to pay that much must have been enormous too—although most of them probably never even got to meet her… So, what am I trying to say? I didn’t use the term “generous papa,” but the expressions “generous papa” and “big-spending regular” aren’t actually compliments. They refer to someone who isn’t genuinely liked at all, but keeps misunderstanding the situation and dropping huge amounts of money. Someone whose replies—and even whose company—is genuinely stressful and painful to deal with. If you ever have a papa offering three- or four-digit amounts, that’s an opportunity. Whether it’s papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) or a regular job, imagine how stressful it must be for someone to pay that much. Once you’re financially satisfied, you may think, “I don’t need one-tenth or one-hundredth of that allowance. I’m already getting more than enough from other papas.” That can absolutely happen. Of course, you should never let a generous papa know that—not even if your life depended on it.

Personally, I’d consider someone a generous (well-paying) papa if he casually gives me an allowance that comfortably exceeds a month’s daytime salary. If he can hand over that amount without looking like it hurts his wallet, I think of him as a generous papa. That said, I’m not a Ginza hostess, so my standards in that respect may be relatively low. Also, even if I receive an allowance that someone struggled to scrape together, I end up thinking, “I’m sorry… I don’t want money you had to work so hard to come up with.” So to me, a papa who doesn’t make a woman feel that kind of guilt is a generous papa, too. In any case, the definition of a generous papa isn’t absolute—it’s relative, so it definitely varies from person to person.

Some women are swayed by money, while others won’t be won over no matter how much you offer. Women who get excited saying things like, “I’m looking for a generous papa (well-paying)” or “I landed an ideal supporter!” seem like professionals to me, for the most part. I’m not interested in professionals, but if that’s the kind of woman you’re after, then the more you earn and the more money you put on the table, the more you’ll be able to get. Go ahead and stack up three or even four figures（笑） Women who do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) more as a side gig don’t know those terms. In fact, I’ve had conversations about this with several almost completely inexperienced women I used to date, and they were like, “A generous papa? An ideal supporter? What are those?”

I don’t really think in terms of a “generous papa”; to me, it’s more about having a papa I’m closest to. Everyone has different priorities—some people choose the person who gives the biggest allowance, while others decide based on looks, personality, or physical compatibility. For me, it would be difficult to have a deep relationship with someone unless I genuinely liked and respected him to some extent, both as a man and as a person. So of course, I’m perfectly satisfied even without receiving a six-figure-yen allowance. Conversely, I once ended things with someone myself even though he was incredibly wealthy, employed over 1,000 people, owned a lot of real estate, and drove several luxury cars. I simply stopped liking him. The reason was that he kept talking about his ex-girlfriend. I couldn’t see his appeal anymore because of his lack of tact in telling the woman he was dating about all the things his ex had done for him. In short, money alone can’t always win someone’s heart.

I think “a generous papa” is something a woman calls someone based on her own perception—not something for other people to decide. So, even if the monthly arrangement is ¥50,000, he’s a generous papa if she considers him generous. Conversely, even if it’s ¥1,000,000 a month, he isn’t one if she feels the amount is low. Some women may be swayed by the amount alone, but as long as it’s sufficient to a certain degree, I don’t think most people make decisions based solely on the money. I know several women who turned down men offering a six-figure allowance and are dating men offering a five-figure allowance instead. So: > Does “a generous papa” mean someone who pays six figures? No. > What would an average, ordinary papa typically pay? As I said above, whether someone is ordinary, generous, or low-paying depends on each woman’s perception. Besides, averages are meaningless here. This isn’t a prostitution club; it’s a dating club. You’re not a college kid anymore, so why not graduate from thinking about everything in terms of money alone?