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Jul 3, 2022 11:07
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A premium black woman…
I’m probably the one competing with “Makeup Guy.”
Anyway, a question for the male members:
My usual style is to pursue the other person.
But lately, for someone I genuinely want to stay with for a long time,
I’ve started wondering whether it might be easier and better to have her pursue me instead.
Pursuing someone is probably more effective in the short term,
but even for a long-term arrangement, is it better to let her chase me?
Having the female member confess her feelings first and slowly nurturing those feelings…
What is this, gardening bonsai?
P.S. Apparently, there’s a badass in Nagoya whose meeting spot is Van Cleef & Arpels.
I’ve always been the type not to win people over with gifts, but maybe I’ll try that technique too.
10 answers
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Bragging about your deviation score, huh? (lol)
Since it’s self-proclaimed, feel free to believe whatever you like.
But you come across as the type who’s typically disliked by women because you lack humility, and then tries to make up for it with money.
If you want women to confess their feelings to you, why not try having a normal relationship without relying on money?
Here, women are looking for money, so it seems relatively easy for them to say they want to date you...
I keep reminding myself not to be fooled by the magic of the club and money, or mistake it for being genuinely popular. Things work out here because money has its influence, after all. (lol)
Other
I’m not sure what criteria that score is based on, but a deviation score of 74 (top 1%) is really impressive. You should definitely become an answerer and help women who are struggling with how to deal with papas like the questioner.
美惺(みさと)
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Send a reverse offer to this responder
Other
You’re certainly confident. Most people wouldn’t go around calling themselves a 74-level papa in papa-katsu.
If you’re winning women over with a generous allowance, then that’s pretty normal, isn’t it?
Since it’s papa-katsu, there’s no question of who’s chasing whom. The man is the one who likes her and makes the offer, after all.
Personally, when I picture a 74-level papa, I imagine someone young, handsome, generous with his allowance, and not looking for an adult relationship.
Other
In an age-gap papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) arrangement, you should generally make him chase you. An older guy chasing a young woman is just creepy, and it’s never going to work…
That said, making someone chase you only works with women who have low self-esteem. A beautiful woman with high self-esteem won’t cling to a man who treats her carelessly and seems likely to leave.
Especially when he’s an older guy. The moment she realizes you’re trying to make her chase you, she’ll be like, “Huh? What a hassle,” and it’s over.
So sure, it might work with an unattractive, emotionally unstable woman with low self-esteem. But that’s not what you’re looking for, is it? That’s the point.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’d say my Universe rating is around 50. Since I offer a high allowance, of course any woman would accept me. That said, I’ve never been turned down by a Premium Black woman.
I’ve dubbed my approach the “200-point system.” If an average papa starts with 100 points, I start with 200, because I offer a high allowance.
Even though my allowance is high, I aim to be more than perfect in every other respect too. So even on dinner-only dates, I stop by a nail salon beforehand to have my toenails tidied up before heading to the date. If I’m paying attention even to my toenails, everything else must be perfect too.
I always check out the restaurant in advance and simulate where we’ll walk and roughly how many steps it will take. I’ve mentioned this several times in my Q&A posts, but I pay especially close attention to the airflow. My scent is my greatest weapon, so I want her to smell me before she even sits down and decide the winner right away. Then, as the finishing move, I use the remaining 100 points—the high allowance. That’s the Loser Guy method.
Don’t you picture Kobe’s ultra-generous papas arriving at the date venue in a chauffeur-driven car and saying something like, “I like you very much, ho ho ho”?
Then she gets scared and rejects him, and he leaves behind a dying cry like, “Why?! I can’t believe it. I’ve never been turned down before.” Inviting an A-type woman out from the very first day is another feature of the Kobe method. I heard about it from the women and thought, “Of course he gets rejected,” but the scary thing about the Kobe method is how they instantly lock down Premium Black women, causing them to disappear from view. You think you’ll take your time and make an offer, then suddenly she’s gone.
To answer the question, the whole idea of either chasing women or making them chase you is fundamentally different from the Loser Guy method. I’m completely and consistently a gentleman, treating women like queens. Both at dinner and during an adult relationship (intimate). I hate anything less than perfection. I would never invite a girl to my own apartment, yet I keep everything spotless—even the toilet and air conditioner—just in case. I don’t want to leave any opening in her mind.
In short, I’m an incredibly high-maintenance man.
👨 Male
Universe member
My dating style is simple:
“Just one woman who agrees to my preferred arrangement—twice a month, generally with an adult relationship (intimate).”
That’s all there is to it.
So I’ve never really had to chase anyone or be chased, and I’ve never been in competition with anyone either.
We’ve been seeing each other for four years now, and I feel like we’re closer and getting along better than we were at the beginning. In that sense, I think we’ve both been slowly building the relationship together.
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Seattle with a deviation score of 50.
I thought Taro, the flag-maker who manages to win people over with a standard allowance, was at a deviation score of 80.
Other
Is there really any chasing or being chased in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan)? I’m meeting people here because I don’t want that kind of hassle.
Even if you’re willing to pay, can a premium, top-tier woman still walk away from you?
Marika
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m also Rino’s “Paper Airplane,” a consultant for dealing with ultra-generous papas in Kansai.
Since money is part of the equation, it should be enough to have the women do the pursuing. (Actually, if a man chases after her by flaunting the power of his money, wouldn’t that be against the rules? You have to leave the choice up to the woman…)
If you’re getting an allowance in the tens of thousands of yen, you’d want to meet every day—and they really do come to see you.
> Even if you pay, can a premium, top-tier woman still get away from you?
LOL, yeah, I guess so.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Chasing or trying to make someone chase you—are you a child?