My papa (a male supporter) on a monthly arrangement of 100,000 yen has been trying to see me three times a month since the beginning of this year. He told me that seeing me only twice a month made him feel lonely.
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We originally had a pay-per-meeting arrangement of 50,000 yen including dinner, but he requested that we switch to a monthly arrangement.
There isn't much kissing, but he strongly pressures me to give him oral sex, asks me to lick more, and there is often residue on that area that I don't want to lick. I tell him to wash again, but even after he showers, there's still often some left.
If it were 50,000 yen per meeting and he made various requests, I might be able to tolerate it. But for 100,000 yen a month and three meetings, I can't help thinking that expecting so much is being greedy.
Should I be more tolerant?
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If the number of meetings is going to increase, isn’t it only natural to ask for a corresponding increase in your allowance? There’s no point in going on dates if you find them painful, so I think it’s best to communicate your request honestly.
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Unless she’s practically a professional papa-katsu woman, it’s extremely difficult to string her along with a convincing lie. So it’s better to tell him something close to the truth: that twice a month is all you can manage.
Some men gradually start getting carried away, so make sure you communicate that clearly.
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I recommend somehow keeping it to twice a month by saying your schedules don’t line up, and avoiding a relationship that feels like a burden as much as possible.
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A monthly arrangement that gives you worse terms than before is pointless, right?
If you have to meet and have an adult relationship every time, I feel like your only options are to go with Aya’s approach or reduce the frequency of the adult relationship if he’s also willing to go on regular dates. You should look for a new papa in parallel, too.
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When moving from a pay-per-meeting arrangement to a monthly arrangement, the one thing the papa absolutely has to do is make the terms better than they were before.
If you’re going from 50,000 yen per meeting to 100,000 yen per month, then you should meet no more than twice a month, with the expectation being around 1.5 times a month. If the papa wants to see her three times every month without fail, he should be paying 150,000–200,000 yen monthly. A monthly arrangement that lowers the per-meeting rate compared with pay-per-meeting is a terrible deal, so keep him around tactfully while looking for another papa. Doing papa-katsu while carrying that much stress is hard enough as it is—especially when you’re dealing with some dick cheese…
That’s what I would have answered, but there’s a girl who has me really confused right now. We originally started out as a normal boyfriend-girlfriend relationship, and at my own suggestion, I’ve been giving her about 400,000 yen a month. She messages me every day, calls me almost daily, and I end up seeing her at least once a week, usually whenever she asks.
From my perspective, I think, “It’s a monthly arrangement, so I’m losing out if we see each other this often, right?” But whenever I try not to overdo it, she says, “But you’re my boyfriend—why wouldn’t you?” I’ve been completely immersed in papa-katsu until now, so I’m having a bit of a panic realizing that relationships can work this way too. I really don’t know what to do…
She knows everything—that I do papa-katsu and date lots of other girls—but whenever I give her money, she always emphasizes, “I’m not doing papa-katsu, okay? I’m your girlfriend.” I honestly have no idea what the difference is, but she’s such a sweet, genuine girl that I’m starting to wonder if I should break things off with the others.
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“Since the beginning of this year” is pretty impressive. We’re already halfway through the year, you know. So this fierce battle has been going on since before the invasion of Ukraine. Even Zelensky must be surprised.
I’d say you’re already more than successful enough. If you keep working at it, I’m sure your own giant Buddha statue will be built within the next hundred years.
That said, if it can be settled through a little adjustment along the lines of “well, that’s a bit much,” I feel there may be a reasonable compromise.
First, regarding the smegma issue: at sex establishments, the woman gets in the bath with you and washes you. Normally, she pulls the foreskin back nearly a third of the way down the shaft and gives it a thorough scrub.
Second, if you want to limit how often you meet, just confuse him with the kind of hostess-club logic Aya suggested.
Honestly, if you don’t even like him and are doing this purely by the hour, I think setting up a monthly arrangement in the first place was a mistake. But since it’s helping you keep the customer, let’s call it a win. People on the sidelines will tell you to turn down unpleasant men right away, but from the person involved, getting an offer is a matter of luck. Considering the practical benefits, I think the only option is to hold on to a customer once you’ve caught one and get everything you can out of him.
The rest is about deciding how to shape things. Just like with bonsai, you snip away the unnecessary branches here and there without letting the tree wither. The important thing is choosing which branches to keep. Bad branches get cut right off at the base.
Taro
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He doesn’t sound like a good papa, so I don’t think you need to be so accommodating.
To begin with, expecting a monthly arrangement for 100,000 yen seems unrealistic. I think he intended from the start to gradually reduce it to three meetings.
If you can accept the current situation while imagining that there are girls receiving 100,000 yen per pay-per-meeting arrangement—even if it’s dinner only when they’re on their period—then you can continue seeing him.
A papa who pays 100,000 yen per meeting naturally wouldn’t pressure you into oral sex, wouldn’t be stingy, and would be clean and well-groomed.
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“I’m sorry. I’d like to see you more too, but I really can’t turn down my ○○ job because it would affect my income, so I have to work…
I do want to see you more, but even meeting twice a month is honestly quite difficult for me—I’ve been pushing myself in some ways. I didn’t want you to dislike me, so I haven’t been able to say this until now, but I’ve been doing my best to keep my schedule open for you, even if it was only twice a month… So it hurts when you say things like that. *crying*”
You can say that your schedule has gotten even busier because you started a side job, or use any other explanation, but make sure you clearly communicate that twice a month is your limit.
There’s no need to force yourself to stay involved with a papa who doesn’t consider your circumstances. Even while being polite and humble, you should still stand up for yourself.
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If it’s ¥100,000 a month for two meetings, then ¥150,000 a month for three meetings is only natural.
Up to around ¥200,000–¥300,000, it would be unfair for the monthly amount not to increase with the number of meetings unless the woman agrees.
Even beyond that, it shouldn’t mean unlimited meetings unless she wants that. If anything, the man should be reducing the number of times you meet.
But if you feel like the other person is pressuring you, the best thing is to end it quickly. The proportion of good papas is pretty low, so you need to find one as soon as possible…
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