I’m new to papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), so I don’t really know what the average allowance is…
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I’ve only met one person so far. He gave me 2 for transportation and 8 for an adult relationship (intimate). Is that about average…?
I’d also really appreciate any detailed advice on papa-katsu, such as how to keep meeting the same papa (a male supporter) regularly. (#^.^#)
I imagine the going rates vary depending on things like occupation and other factors, but I’d love to hear your comments. (#^.^#)!
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You can’t really know the average when you’ve only met one person.
Rather than comparing yourself to other people, your average is the average allowance offered by the men who approach you. And whether they’re willing to continue seeing you at that amount is the true measure of how they value you.
There’s about a sevenfold difference between the papa who gives me the least allowance and the one who gives me the most. Some don’t pay me on a pay-per-meeting basis either—though it’s not a monthly arrangement; they pay in a lump sum.
I think things continue with all of them because our levels of satisfaction match.
Marika
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Even if you’re happy to receive a lot at first (*^^*), there’s no guarantee you’ll keep getting that amount, so I think it’s best to expect around 30,000–50,000 yen (*˙ω˙*)و グッ!
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There’s no point in asking what other people’s average allowance is.
An average is just an average, so whether yours is above or below it won’t affect the allowance you can receive.
Since you received ¥80,000 this time, if you start turning down men who offer less than that, your average allowance will eventually be ¥80,000 or more.
And since you’ve found someone who offers ¥80,000, you could basically continue seeing him and only accept men offering ¥100,000 or more going forward.
That way, your average may eventually reach ¥100,000 or more.
What you do from here is up to you.
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You can find past questions by searching the Q&A box for terms like “allowance” and “going rates,” so I recommend giving it a try.
Transportation 20,000 yen and an allowance of 80,000 yen for an adult relationship (intimate) are on the generous side, but whether it continues depends on you. From the man’s perspective, if he feels you’re not worth paying 80,000 yen for, he can cut things off right away. On the other hand, depending on you, it’s also possible to receive more than 80,000 yen.
To keep the arrangement going, you need to satisfy both the man’s latent and apparent needs. Try Googling “needs marketing” and researching it.
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The average is about half that.
To women, men who offer a high allowance look cool, while to men, women who accept a low allowance look cute.
If you keep that in mind, I think the arrangement will continue.
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Before asking, it might be a good idea to check whether someone has already asked a similar question.
There’s no set average allowance—it varies from person to person, and there’s hardly a fixed market rate—so I think you should agree to whatever amount feels right to you. I believe figuring out how to maintain the relationship is more important.
If the other person decides you’re not worth that much to them, it may end after just a few meetings… though of course, it goes both ways.
You’ll probably meet other people from here on, so you can see how much they offer and gradually find your own personal average.
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As everyone says, allowances vary from person to person. The real question is whether the arrangement can continue.
If you were in the other person’s position, I think it comes down to whether they’re someone you’d want to see again even after giving them an allowance.
Since relationships through an exclusive dating club involve high-level matching, you shouldn’t judge someone based solely on the initial allowance amount.
Also, if you’d like to meet again, simply say, “I’d love to see you again.” You’ll probably get some kind of response. If there’s no response at all, unfortunately, it likely means they’re not interested in an allowance-based relationship.
From my experience since joining a dating club, I feel people largely fall into two types:
- Those who want to continue seeing each other and deepen the relationship
- Those who treat it as a trial arrangement
Within that, I think it’s best to establish your own dating style—including the allowance amount, how often you meet, and the nature of your relationship with the other person—and proceed accordingly.
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This is an answer to an older question, but I think it depends on whether you view the going rate as the average or the median. The average is probably pushed up by some especially high-paying arrangements, so I’d say it’s above 8. If you’re looking at the median, though, I’d say it’s around 5.
As for whether you can receive transportation money after the second meeting, that depends on the man, but normally, I don’t think you should expect it. I only give enough to cover a taxi home after the last train.
It may depend on the questioner’s level, but if he offered 8 without any negotiation, there’s a chance he likes you—or that his sense of money is a little out of touch. If you build a good relationship and nurture it, I think you could probably get your allowance increased even more.
I’m that type myself, haha.
The best way to build a good relationship depends on the situation, so if you ask for more specific advice, I’m sure the other respondents will offer all kinds of suggestions.
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Are you bragging?
Or are you one of those people who don’t look through previous questions before posting here?
If so, please search first before asking.
If it’s something you’re wondering about, chances are other people have asked the same thing, too.
As for your question, obviously, it’s high compared to the average.
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If that’s what they offered on their own, you should be fine for now. But if you named the amount yourself or there was even a bit of negotiation involved—including implying it through your attitude—they may feel it’s overpriced, which could make it less likely to continue.
If the terms are fine, the rest comes down to your own appeal. If you’d want to see them again regardless of the money, just be yourself. If not, it’s simply a matter of compatibility.
If you don’t actually feel that way and are only doing it for the money, then you’ll have to put on an act. There’s a lot of technique involved in that, so you’d be better off asking a more specific question. Or, in that case, you might get better advice from people in the nightlife industry.
Taro
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Allowance varies from person to person, so I don’t know the average—and even if you did, I don’t think it would mean much.
Rather than asking vaguely, it would be better to clearly explain what you want to know and ask directly.
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