Tips
Mar 17, 2022 01:32
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Thank you for your answers.
As many of you pointed out, the two people I ended things with over the 50,000-yen allowance were also people I found questionable even at 60,000 or 70,000 yen. Also, based on my own experience, the people who offered 80,000 or 100,000 yen on their own often turned out to be a good match conversationally, arranged wonderful hotel rooms, and generally made me feel valued.
I do have some ongoing arrangements even at 50,000 yen. (They’re my type physically.)
If money were my only concern, it might be better to accept people offering 50,000 yen as well and simply increase the number of meetings. But I’m going to enjoy my dating-club life at a comfortable pace.
My question is: if you have any tips for making it easier to maintain ongoing arrangements with papas, I’d really appreciate your advice. I make an effort to stay in touch regularly and take care of my appearance, including beauty treatments.
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Other
As I mentioned in my answer to your previous question, that range is really within the margin of error, so I think it’s better to judge based on other factors.
That said, I do take advantage of that margin of error myself.
As for the secret to making an arrangement last, I think it varies from person to person, but in my case, it’s when they make me develop feelings for them (the opposite of Mr. Makeotoko). I don’t fall genuinely in love, but I prefer being the one doing the chasing.
I can’t quite put it into words. It’s difficult.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Even with a papa (a male supporter) who offers 5 for an adult relationship (intimate), if I got my period on the day we had plans and could only do dinner, but he still gave me the 5, I’d definitely continue seeing him. It shows that he values me.
On the other hand, even if it’s 10 pay-per-meeting, if he casually reschedules when I get my period and doesn’t give me a single yen in allowance, my total income would be the same as with the papa above. Since I’m not being valued, I might as well cut ties.
I think having to put yourself through a certain amount physically for papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan)—meaning an adult relationship (intimate)—is unavoidable, but I don’t want anyone to wear themselves down emotionally.
The key to continuing probably depends on the papa. For example, if I were the other person, I’d be uncomfortable if she genuinely fell in love with me, but I would want her to like me.
I’m the type to keep some distance from women, so even if they came to like me, I wouldn’t get the wrong idea and start acting like their boyfriend. In fact, I’d increase their allowance and make sure we continued seeing each other. On the other hand, if we stayed too distant, I’d lose interest. Sorry, I know that’s complicated.
Update:
I’m adding this after reading Early’s answer.
Honestly, I’d like to fall in love with a woman too. Or rather, I’d like to genuinely fall in love. But I can’t seem to. Maybe I’m somewhat detached, or maybe when there’s a large age gap, I start wanting to protect her, so romantic feelings don’t develop. Still, I’m looking for someone I can genuinely fall in love with. Sorry if that sounds creepy.
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
There haven’t been any bad dates when the allowance was 80,000–100,000 yen.
I take it you mean that with 50,000–70,000 yen, things sometimes develop into a relationship depending on the person, and sometimes they don’t.
It’s great that you’re enjoying a comfortable and fulfilling club life.
I think the key to maintaining a long-term relationship is to pay close attention to what the man you’re seeing is looking for from you.
Other
First of all, I’m not even sure which question you’re referring to. But if it’s this one:
https://universe-club.jp/help/member/detail/12554
then I have to wonder whether you actually understood the respondent’s answer. The point was that whether two people are compatible has nothing to do with the allowance, so why are you interpreting it in terms of the allowance? I think that bias itself is at the heart of the problem.
As for the secret to making something last: wanting to see the other person and enjoying the time you spend together. That’s all there is to it. You can’t build something lasting by covering everything up with lies.
If you think you can get what you want by perfecting the art of lying, isn’t that because you live in a world where you’re deceived by lies?
Do you really want to keep living in that world? Wouldn’t it be faster to change that first?
Taro
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
That kind of considerate relationship sounds pretty challenging.
Maybe the key is having someone—whether of the same or opposite sex, even a papa (a male supporter)—you can unwind with…