I’ve met 11 men through the club so far (8 of those arrangements worked out), but only one was a Centurion holder.
Most of them had an Amex Platinum or an ordinary Rakuten card.
Their allowances were usually around 50,000 yen, and many of them chose fairly casual, mainstream restaurants for dinner (they didn’t seem to know many expensive places, lol).
Honestly, they weren’t anything special.
As Kazu-san mentioned in the previous question, I think you’re more likely to meet Centurion holders among the older men hanging out at bars in Ginza, Roppongi, and Nishi-Azabu.
Why is it that, in general, the older men trying to pick up girls at those high-end bars seem to have a higher proportion of wealthy people than men from Universe Black or dating-club members?
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I’m not sure what you’re referring to, but wouldn’t it be better to stop using the club? Sometimes you just need to learn to be content with what you have! (´・ω・｀)
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At the end of the day, the men and women who join these clubs and salons are just two groups of people who’ve fallen on hard times. It’s a world built around efficiency—a fast-tracked, cost-effective way to get what you want while saving time.
A woman who has no financial worries, or a man who has no trouble attracting women, would never join.
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“High-end bars” is a pretty broad term. There’s a huge range.
Unlike a dating club, there’s no rule that customers have to pay an allowance, so plenty of people come in simply hoping to get sex for free.
And just because someone is wealthy doesn’t mean they’re generous. There are plenty of rich people who are stingy, too.
If you don’t think Univa is anything special, then by all means—go ahead and work at one of those high-end bars and look for a papa (a male supporter).
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You openly write here about how many people SALON introduced you to and how many arrangements you’ve successfully set up… but I think the SALON staff can immediately tell who’s posting these comments.
Saying things like, “You don’t seem to know many upscale places lol. Honestly, they’re nothing special,” comes across as insulting, so I don’t think you should say things like that. If you want to go somewhere expensive, you can go yourself—or why not simply ask to be taken there?
It’s incredibly disappointing that, because of people like you, others may start thinking, “SALON’s female members really aren’t anything special.” Why not take a little more pride in being a SALON female member? Otherwise, you might as well go to the bars and lounges in Ginza, Roppongi, or Nishi-Azabu.
First of all, do you actually ask male members, “What kind of cards do you have?” Are you checking up on them…? Personally, I think any card is fine. The card someone has has nothing to do with their allowance, after all.
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If what’s written in this question is true, then the women at that salon aren’t all that impressive either.
The woman I’m currently seeing is beautiful, has a fairly well-known title, and is very humble. Yet on Universe, she’s just a platinum member with her face blurred. (She said she couldn’t show her face, understandably.)
I also saw an article claiming that announcer Reina Sumi was looking for men on a dating site, so I suppose some women may be discreetly active on apps after all.
As for wealthy male members, those who aren’t looking for someone like the person asking this question may not see any need to use a salon or become a black-tier member.
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What a coincidence.
A senior colleague who helped me a lot at work also mainly used a Rakuten Card—the regular silver one.
He often made purchases worth hundreds of millions of yen, so I asked, “Huh? Why?” He said, “Because I earn Rakuten Points,” and then muttered at the end:
“This has a 1-billion-yen limit. It’s the most convenient!”
That was probably what he really wanted to say, lol.
I think the person asking didn’t get that kind of treatment because they failed to ask, “Why do you use such a regular card?” They didn’t take the bait, so he was disappointed.
I wonder if Rakuten Cards are popular among wealthy people. Apparently, they don’t like black or titanium cards because they’re heavy and embarrassing to take out in public.
It’s a mindset us ordinary people just can’t understand.
It’s me.
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I think that’s probably the case. Universe isn’t particularly expensive compared with other dating clubs, so it’s not like every member is wealthy.
A salon, on the other hand, might have more affluent members… Could it be that they had a Centurion card but simply kept it hidden?
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I don’t know much about the male members on the Universe side, so this is more of an impression than a comparison.
I also sometimes go along to upscale clubs in Ginza and Roppongi as part of accompanying someone. (More accurately, I’m taken there.)
The wealthy people I know naturally have their own regular establishments, where they are, of course, VIPs with preferred hostesses. It seems to me that, in addition to enjoying the company of the women, they also go there simply to treat the people they bring—including me—and to show off to them.
Taking that into consideration, I feel they may be more suited to upscale clubs than to Universe. And, as I said, they are the ones paying the bill, so the amount spent quickly becomes enormous.
Also, upscale clubs offer a higher level of attentiveness, so perhaps women from those establishments fit their personalities better than girls who seem more like amateurs.
Considering all of this, I think it ultimately comes down to individual personality, but my guess is that there are simply more people like that among their generation.
Incidentally, unless someone becomes a mistress, I’ve never seen any older men around me give an allowance at the beginning of a relationship like they do through Universe. Naturally, the money is returned to the women as wages through the club.
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I don’t think simply having a Centurion card makes someone wealthy. At most, it’s proof that they’re a big spender.
I received an invitation for a Centurion after running up my card at bars. People who spend money that recklessly are probably more likely to have one, and they likely have looser purse strings as well.
I’ve given up that kind of wasteful spending, so now I only have ordinary cards.
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The extra points made the annual fee worthwhile, so my Rakuten card was a Premium Card（笑）
Come to think of it, my department-store concierge card was gold by default too.
Also, I used to charm women at bars, but I never paid them an allowance directly—I only spent money at the establishments.
Edit 2, for the sake of the salon’s reputation:
I’m dating women who were introduced to me through a salon with multiple members, and apparently they’re more often offered 10.
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