The other day, I interviewed with Universe Club and, thankfully, was accepted. My profile hasn’t been posted yet, but I wanted to gather information in advance in case I receive an offer, so I’ve been reading this anonymous discussion board.
After seeing some questions and answers about how women are classified, I’d like to ask something that came to mind.
I’ve seen several questions about women’s classifications where the answer ends by asking why they want to know their own class. I’m also someone who would like to know mine—not because I want to think I’m especially valuable just because I’m in a higher class, but because I’d like to have a general idea in advance: if I’m Black, I might receive at least this much allowance; if I’m Platinum, perhaps around this much. I thought that knowing my class would help me judge for myself whether an allowance offered is too high or too low.
You can find market rates online, but after reading this board, I’ve come to understand that there isn’t really a set market rate. If I receive an offer, I’m starting to worry about how much allowance I’m actually worth.
I’m Type C. If I receive 30,000 yen for an adult relationship, would it be reasonable to assume that I’m valued at around Standard or Gold; around 50,000 yen would indicate Platinum; and anything above that would indicate Black?
Regardless of the allowance, I want to keep working on becoming even more beautiful. I’m sorry for the long post, and thank you in advance if I receive an offer.
I’m Kida, the representative.
No, that’s a lie.
I don’t believe you’d accept and work hard no matter what class you were placed in. You’re trying to find out your class so you can use it as leverage when negotiating your price.
Just wait. You’re planning to be disappointed if you get ¥30,000 and happy if you get ¥50,000, right? Then you’ll start calculating it by the hour: “¥50,000 for two hours!”
That ¥30,000 or ¥50,000 isn’t your worth. You’re not worth that little at all.
It reflects the man’s value.
If someone pays you ¥30,000, do your best to help him grow into a man who can earn more. If someone pays you ¥300,000, he’s a big-hearted man—become a woman worthy of him.
The people interviewing you and sorting you into classes are basically babies—fresh out of college and only six months into their first job. There’s no way someone like that gets to decide your price.
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Maezawa from the president’s office here, answering your question as well.
Just because a man is in the Black tier doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll offer a generous allowance. Some men in the Black tier still offer a low allowance.
This can happen when a man wants to receive special treatment from the club but only wants to offer women the bare minimum allowance.
Conversely, some men are in the Platinum tier and offer a high allowance.
That said, as you mentioned, moving up in class does tend to increase the likelihood of receiving a higher allowance.
Ultimately, it’s up to you. What amount of allowance would you personally be satisfied with?
That’s the key point. If the allowance is at least enough to satisfy you, I think it’s worth seeing how things go.
If you start seeing more men and it becomes difficult to manage, you can simply stop meeting the ones who offer a low allowance.
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I’m Dai, a male member.
Whether she’s a Black or Gold member, I generally offer 5 as my standard, and I’ve been able to date without much trouble.
If a woman asks for more than 5, I’ll consider meeting her once if I feel she offers some added value. Otherwise, I simply part ways.
Some women occasionally ask for 8, but they’re often Gold members. The allowance has nothing to do with membership class.
Women with less experience seem to set the lowest amount they’ve received as their minimum. If a woman has been given 8 before, it feels like she’ll say she doesn’t want to date unless she gets 8 again.
The more experienced a woman is, the more it seems she decides her minimum based on the man.
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Since you’re not really sure how things work at first, why not leave it up to the men and accept a slightly lower allowance for the time being? Then, if someone offering a higher allowance comes along, you can gradually replace them.
Marika
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I’m a male member, and by papa-katsu standards, I’m one of the losers.
I fairly often use membership class as a guideline.
For women in the Black or Platinum tiers who seem likely to be popular, I’ll immediately offer a fairly large amount to secure them.
My rivals are Platinum and Black male members, so offering a substantial amount gives me a decisive advantage over them.
My first offer to an ace-level woman (Platinum) was effectively 25 per pay-per-meeting, and it was 20 per meeting for a former ace-level woman (Black).
I’ve never made an offer to a Standard woman, but the most I’ve offered a popular-looking Gold woman was around 13 per meeting. That said, I’ve also offered 10 to a Black woman.
Sometimes, though, I’ll offer 6 per meeting just to test my own ability. If she agrees to see me for 6 per meeting, I’ll give her 10 in the room.
I’ve survived in competitive environments, so I don’t believe treating everyone equally is necessarily right.
I keep raising the allowance for girls who make an effort, while the allowance for those who don’t make an effort never increases. That’s only natural, isn’t it? Wouldn’t it be disrespectful to the girls who are trying? It makes no sense for a girl who works hard to receive the same amount as one who doesn’t.
Women treat the papa who pays differently from the papa who doesn’t, right? It’s the same thing.
I can’t say whether you’ll become Standard or Black, but please accept the harsh reality that equal treatment doesn’t exist in this world, and aim to increase your allowance through your own efforts.
If your papa never raises your allowance no matter how hard you try, I think you should leave him and move on to a papa who rewards your efforts.
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I’m Fuu, a column writer.
Welcome.
Since you haven’t received any offers yet, I think it’s fine to gauge your allowance based on the number of offers you get.
If you receive a lot of offers, you can be more assertive about the amount and terms. If you don’t get many but need the money, you’ll probably have to leave it up to the men.
I also think you should prepare in advance so you can clearly explain your views on dating, your terms, and how much you’d like to receive.
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I’m Kazu, a male member.
I don’t change the allowance based on a woman’s class. Whether she’s Standard, Black, or a salon woman, I offer the same amount.
If the setting fee were the same for Black and Standard women, offers would become concentrated among Black women, and Standard women would stop receiving offers. Class distinctions exist simply to prevent that by setting different fees. That’s all.
Some men may adjust the allowance they offer according to a woman’s class, but I think they’re probably in the minority. None of the male members I know do that.
Also, I don’t think men offer allowances simply because a woman is beautiful. Of course, being attractive is a good thing, but I don’t think it’s the most important thing in a relationship.
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I’m Ayase Nana☆
The allowance doesn’t change based on your class.
I think you should set a minimum amount for yourself. Be sure to discuss the terms before going to a hotel, and have him use a condom. Otherwise, you could end up with an STI.
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I’m Flag Maker, a column writer.
First, don’t focus too much on the allowance—accept as many offers as you can and build up some experience. Then, when you have your photos retaken in about six months, use that as an opportunity to decide your own value and move forward on your terms. Nothing goes smoothly from the start. At first, you need to be prepared to endure a certain amount of hardship.
By the way, I’m a black-tier member, but I’m just a salaried employee earning around ¥10 million a year, so ¥50,000 is the most I can offer as an allowance. If you get an offer from a man like that, it’s probably me.
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Even if it’s a black-tier member, the allowance is the same regardless of the class.
I think it’s best to leave it up to the man…
It depends not only on the woman, but also on the man. Compatibility matters too, as does what you prioritize…
Paper Airplane
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