Tips Aug 14, 2021 18:26

Am I misunderstanding what a C-type arrangement means?

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I understand C-type to mean “if we click”—in other words, if we don’t click, it’s fine to leave after just a two-hour meal. When I met him for the first time, he asked what time I would be leaving as soon as we sat down to eat, before we had even introduced ourselves. So I told him the train time about three hours later, allowing some leeway after a two-hour meal. If we click, I often end up having an adult relationship that same day, sometimes taking more than four hours. But I didn’t want him to think I was an easy woman who was eager from the start, so I gave him that approximate time. He told me, “It’s strange for a C-type to only allow four hours. I’ve already booked a room, so this won’t work unless you change the time.” Then he checked my train schedule, chose a later train for me, and rushed me throughout the meal so that we could finish both dinner and the adult relationship before then. He was already acting like that before we had even introduced ourselves. I could barely eat anything—I only had the appetizer from the course meal. There was no way I could imagine clicking with someone like that, so I declined. After I turned down the adult relationship, he made me walk around for quite a while after the meal and took me to a café. The original time had already passed, and I felt awful, but I went along for tea out of kindness. (In the end, it was completely one-sided: I never got to introduce myself, and he didn’t even ask my name.) I’d hate to receive a bad review over this. If I’m the one who misunderstood, I’m thinking of switching to B-type. But with men who are genuinely gentlemanly and properly pay the allowance, I’ve actually ended up having an adult relationship with them that same day more often than not.
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Fuu
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Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Fuu, a columnist. Yes, it’s perfectly fine to turn someone down if you don’t feel a connection. It was kind of you to at least accompany him to the café. A papa who suddenly asks how much time you have isn’t exactly a gentleman—and he’s a bad papa. That said, there’s one thing I’d like you to understand so you can have better arrangements in the future: the club’s rule is that dates are four hours long. From a papa’s perspective, having the time cut so blatantly can make his interest fade instantly. Please keep that in mind when you’re dating a good papa. I’ve also seen girls end an arrangement because of this kind of time-cutting. As for the feedback, please explain the situation properly from your side as well, anticipating that the papa may leave a negative comment and making it clear that you’re responding to it. Since he’s that kind of papa, if negative feedback from other female members accumulates, he’ll eventually be weeded out.
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
I’m Maezawa from the President’s Office, and I’ll answer this as well. Your understanding is correct. However, since the club asks you to keep four hours open, and tells the men that the general length of a date—including an adult relationship (intimate)—is four hours, I’d like you to properly distinguish between what you really mean and what you say officially. In this case, even if he asks what time you’ll leave before you’ve even introduced yourselves, the basic response should be: “The club told me to keep four hours open, so I’m available until ○:00—four hours after our meeting time.” You can’t know how things will feel between you. Even if you think, “A man who asks that from the start will probably just end up having dinner with me,” the fact is that you have kept four hours open, so the correct answer is to give him that time. Afterward, if he invites you to an adult relationship (intimate) after dinner, you are free to decline if you don’t feel a connection. Type C is originally set at a 50% chance of an adult relationship, so I can’t help wondering how confident he is in himself—or in the allowance he offers—if he books a hotel in advance or offers around ¥200,000 for an adult relationship lasting about two hours. > After I turned down sex, he made me walk around for quite a while and took me to a café after dinner. Once dinner is over, you have effectively entered an independent, personal relationship outside the club’s arrangement. So when you decline, I think it would be best to say: “Um, the club told me that I’m supposed to receive ¥5,000–¥10,000 from the man. Could I receive it now?” This man would probably say, “No, let’s go to a café and talk,” but you can respond: “Universe told me to receive it during the meal. I’m following the rules and have told you that, but if you’re not going to pay me, I’m going to leave now.” I think it would be perfectly fine for you to say that and leave. If it’s during Universe’s business hours, I recommend calling the club right then. Otherwise, send them a LINE message explaining the situation, such as: “I told him, but he wouldn’t pay me.” > I’d hate to receive a bad rating over this. Unfortunately, since you told him that you would leave after three hours, if he submitted negative feedback, the staff might think that you were in the wrong. To prevent that, send the staff a detailed account of what happened immediately after parting ways with him. They may ask something like: “So you had kept four hours open, but said three hours because you thought it depended on how well you got along?” If so, simply answer: “Yes, I had properly kept four hours open.” If you do that, I don’t think the feedback will end up being negative toward you. > If I’m the one who’s in the wrong, I’m thinking of changing to Type B. You’re not in the wrong, so I think you should stay with Type C. Just be careful not to say that you’ll leave after three hours. If it’s dinner only, even with Type C, you can leave after two hours. However, you still need to keep four hours open in your schedule. Otherwise, if the man gives you negative feedback, the staff may decide that you were at fault. If you kept four hours open but left after two hours because you declined his invitation, there’s absolutely no problem. (Although if you decline too many invitations, that can create a separate issue.)
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Meg
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Age: 50s 👩 Female Former Universe member
I’m Meg, one of the female members. That sounds awful. Even with a D-type arrangement, I think I would’ve turned down the offer if the person had been like that. I mean, I can’t imagine having enjoyable sex with someone who only thinks about himself!
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I’m Nana Ayase ♡ I’m a Type C too. If I’m not interested, I turn them down. It hardly ever happens, though. If a man is being selfish, report him to the staff right away via LINE. Some men get the wrong idea and think they’re absolutely going to do H and leave. That’s a whole level above, isn’t it? What an awful story.
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This is Nagato from the Omiya staff. First, please accept my apologies that this did not turn into a good match. Regarding your question, it appears that both you and the other person deviated from the club’s rules in some way. First, regarding you: for the first date, you are expected to set aside four hours without exception. Of course, if both you and the other person agree, you may end the date in less than four hours. However, ending it after two hours simply because you did not click, without the other person’s agreement, is against the rules. Even if you were to change to Type B, we would still ask you to reserve four hours for the first date. You may feel that spending four hours just having dinner or drinks at a bar is difficult, but unless you and the other person have agreed otherwise, the first date should be scheduled for four hours. Next, regarding the other person: it seems she disregarded the basic premise for Type C women—that the relationship proceeds only when both parties agree on the chemistry and allowance. The fact that she told you at the outset that she had booked a room also made me wonder whether she was unfamiliar with how things work. In any case, I’m glad things did not develop into a relationship against your will. I’m very sorry that this answer may come across as overly critical of you, but I would appreciate it if you could keep the four-hour rule for first dates in mind. I apologize that this is not a particularly polished or satisfactory response. If you have any questions about a date or have an unpleasant experience, please contact our staff through the feedback system or the messaging app you normally use to communicate with us. Thank you for your continued cooperation.
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Hikōki, a male member. I know it’s pretty bad for a man to ask this, and the timing may seem strange, but when she’s asked what time she has to leave, saying, “I don’t have any plans,” leaves the best impression. If she answers with something like, “In about four hours,” it makes her seem very used to these clubs, and I immediately lose interest in continuing with her as a main partner. If she says, “In about three hours,” I lose so much motivation that I honestly just want to go home.
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