Tips Mar 25, 2021 02:56

There’s a papa (a male supporter) who keeps inviting me to travel abroad once the pandemic is over whenever the subject comes up.

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When I ask, “Business class?” he says, “That’s too expensive, so I guess economy,” and it honestly puts me off. I never intended to go in the first place, though... I figured business class probably isn’t within his means, but I can’t help wondering: what kind of mindset lets someone expect a girl young enough to be his daughter to spend hours traveling overseas with him, while trying to get by with economy class and a cheap local hotel? Am I being a bad person for feeling that way? I know papas who aren’t like that, so I can’t help comparing him to them. I don’t want to cut him off yet, because it’s much easier if we stay out of each other’s travel and private lives and keep things as a transactional relationship. But whenever I catch another glimpse of how ordinary and unimpressive he is, I can’t help feeling put off.
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Here’s Joe, quietly adding this after the fact. Apparently Bill Gates, the billionaire—or whatever—flies economy. His reason is, “There’s no correlation between your seat class and the length of the flight.” Well, since he probably travels by private jet anyway, it may not be a lie, but it does feel like there’s an unspoken condition: “as long as it isn’t a private jet.” When I went to Europe with Princess Nana, she told me, “I’ll let you off the hook and go with first class.” On the other hand, when I offered business class to Sakura, she said, “Economy is fine.” They were both wonderful women. I suppose that’s what it comes down to. What is that supposed to mean?!
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Wanting to travel in business class has nothing to do with whether you’re a good or bad person. If you don’t want to go unless it’s in business class, I think it’s perfectly fine to turn it down on those grounds. I don’t know what will happen with your papa (a male supporter), but you don’t seem to like him in the first place. However, publicly putting this out there where everyone can see it and comparing him with other people who would take you on a business-class trip comes across as extremely mean-spirited. Marika
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Maezawa from the CEO’s office here, and I’ll answer too. Thanks for your question. Was this question part of the recent trend of trying to educate people along the lines of, “You should spend more money on women”? As you said, I can understand wanting to be treated lavishly if someone is going to take you somewhere special. I can also understand wanting to brag to your friends: “My papa took me overseas. The plane was an A380, and I had a private suite. It was my first time on a plane with a shower.” I even understand wanting to take a shower on a plane for no particular reason. If you explain the wonders of the A380 to your papa and give him a proper presentation along the lines of, “Since it has a shower, you can even do it in the sky,” you might be able to fly in a private suite rather than just business class. (The shower isn’t actually inside the private suite.) I searched for something easy to understand for people wondering, “What’s an A380?” and found articles such as: “Experience an Onboard Shower Room on Emirates’ A380! First-Class Flight Report: NRT–DXB” https://pianotohikouki.com/emirates-firstclass-a380/shower-room Apparently, they kick you out of the shower room after 30 minutes... There’s also talk that the A380 didn’t sell very well and production is coming to an end. Once the planes pass their service life—around 20 years, perhaps—you won’t be able to fly on them anymore. There used to be an amazing aircraft called the Concorde. It flew at twice the speed of ordinary planes, and even now, 30 years later, no other passenger aircraft has gotten faster, so it remains the fastest passenger plane ever. Of course, flying twice as fast only means arriving in half the time. And because it wasn’t an American aircraft, there were apparently rules requiring it to fly at the same speed as other planes over the continental United States. (I feel like that might not have been the case if it had been an American plane.) Like a sports car with terrible fuel economy, the Concorde was also inefficient and had expensive fares. It retired under those unfortunate circumstances and no longer flies today. I wish I could have flown on it... You might get a general idea of what the Concorde was like from this article: https://www.cnn.co.jp/travel/35115857.html > If it’s just a transactional relationship based on money, it’s really easy, so I’m not ready to end things yet. I think it’s best to focus on the other person’s good qualities. There’s no point worrying about the parts you don’t like, since they’re difficult to change anyway. If you have a papa who will fly you business class, you can simply travel overseas with him. With the papa you’re asking about, I think it would be better to keep things easygoing and enjoy the relationship.
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Seattle. Mundane, mainstream, small fry, ordinary—just another face in the crowd. If there’s a flight available, I’d prefer to fly business class whenever possible.
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I’m Date◎Yume, a male member. This question is pretty hard to answer, isn’t it? Haha. I completely agree, but at the same time, I can’t help thinking, “Wait, is that really okay?” Haha.
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I’m Kazu, a male member. Wanting business class is a personal choice, so I don’t think that makes her mean-spirited. But I did think she was a pretty pathetic woman. People spend their money in different ways. I’m amazed she can complain so much about how someone else spends his money, and the fact that her only basis for doing so is that he’s much older just makes her seem like a very boring person. Personally, I want to fly business class myself, so if I took a woman with me, I’d probably book her a business-class seat too. But if she knows a man who will give her what she wants, why is she still forcing herself to be with a man who turns her off? Being with someone you don’t even like isn’t dating—it’s just prostitution, isn’t it? I’d like to tell that papa that, rather than making a prostitute his travel companion, he’d have more fun finding an escort locally(笑).
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Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
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I’m a male member, Paper Airplane. > Since I know papas who aren’t like that, I can’t help comparing them. I compare them because I know girls who don’t compare themselves and aren’t put off by economy. It’s not that they have bad personalities—we’re simply not a good match.
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