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Jul 4, 2023 17:55
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On apps, I think around ¥30,000 is standard, whereas from what I’ve seen on this message board, it seems to be ¥50,000 or more at clubs.
I’d like to hear what experienced people think is behind this difference. (It’s not that I dislike paying more—I offer around that amount myself.)
With apps, it’s usually genuinely just for one night, and neither party is really trying to bring out the best in the other.
With a club, on the other hand, I had understood that the woman tries to be a good mistress, while the man tries to be a good papa (a male supporter), and that the allowance naturally increases as a result.
However, even after joining and being introduced to several women, I still haven’t met anyone like that. It feels no different from using an app—or perhaps everything has simply become more drawn-out and complicated. Maybe it’s because I’m only using the standard plan.
What I’d like to ask all of you experienced people is this: as I gain experience and grow as a papa, will I eventually see a different side of the world? Or does the landscape change somewhat if I move up to a higher class?
I still haven’t grasped the true essence of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
Around when did you all start to understand what papa-katsu was really about?
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Are you really looking to meet a woman who has accumulated extensive experience with papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan)?
Or do you want to date a woman who has mastered and fully understands the essence of papa-katsu?
Probably not, right?
Ideally, you’d want a woman—or man—who would never do papa-katsu. Since that’s impossible, I assume you’re hoping to meet someone with little experience in papa-katsu who is also popular outside of it.
And this isn’t something only women are expected to have. Men need it too. Men also need to be at least somewhat popular outside of papa-katsu.
The fact that you’ve used not only a club but also apps suggests that you’re genuinely desperate for a satisfying connection, and that meeting someone who fits what you’re looking for hasn’t been easy. From a woman’s perspective, I think the first step is for you to recognize that this is how you may come across.
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
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I think apps tend to have much more variation overall.
For example, some women on apps ask for much lower allowances, while others probably ask for far more than those you meet through clubs.
The same goes for attractiveness. With apps, I feel like you’re more likely to meet genuinely rare types of women, including those with unusual professions.
Clubs make it easier to find someone consistently, whereas apps feel more like a gamble.
That’s probably why relationships through apps tend to end up being one-night affairs.
I’ve met three women through clubs whom I’d like to date long-term, but even so, there are still days when I feel like enjoying a little variety…
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> I’d like to ask everyone—especially those with plenty of experience—whether, as I gain experience and grow as a papa, I’ll start seeing the world differently. Or does things change a little when you move up to a higher class?
I still haven’t really grasped the essence of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) yet.
Around when did you all start to understand what papa-katsu was really about?
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I believe that, for a papa, growing through papa-katsu means having the chance to hear the thoughts of young women he normally wouldn’t have the opportunity to meet. I feel that an adult relationship (intimate) may also be what allows them to share their true feelings.
> Even after being introduced to several women since joining, I still haven’t met anyone like that. It’s not really any different from using an app—or rather, it feels like everything has simply become more drawn out.
Maybe it’s because I’m in the standard class.
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I think you’ve simply been unlucky with opportunities, regardless of class.
Speaking only from my own experience, I believe very few young women would immediately want to become the mistress of a papa who is significantly older than them. I think you meet several times, and gradually develop a relationship that starts to resemble that of lovers.
Also, I believe that “women trying to be good mistresses and men trying to be good papas” has much more to do with the relationship that develops between the two people than with whether they met through an app or a dating club.
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>With a dating club, I understood that women try to be good mistresses and men try to be good papas, with the allowance increasing as a result.
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>Thankfully, I’m in exactly that kind of relationship with a papa I met through a dating club.
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>I don’t know much about apps, but I do wonder whether dating clubs that conduct interviews tend to have more decent people of both genders.
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>That said, both types have a certain number of unmotivated or insincere people, as well as people who see others merely as an outlet for their desires. Maybe the person asking this question has simply only encountered that type so far…
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>Or perhaps papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) has become too mainstream over the past three years, resulting in an increase in lower-quality people on both sides—which may sound rude to say.
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>I just hope the bad money doesn’t drive out the good.