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Nov 10, 2021 18:02
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I haven’t been able to meet anyone really compatible. Sometimes I think a girl is great, but then something suddenly turns me off and we part ways pretty quickly. Nothing has lasted more than three months.
Of course, I can arrange course meals and the like, but after a few months, I find myself wanting a more casual and intimate relationship…
I understand that they’re doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) because they can enjoy good food and receive an allowance, so there are clear benefits for them.
It’s proving pretty difficult.
8 answers
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Hikoki, a male member.
There are probably plenty of women who would be happy with that.
Some are happy even with convenience-store bento, while others won’t eat at family restaurants or prefer to find a place themselves. Everyone’s different.
But if you have no sense of taste, having to hear—or say—things like “This is delicious” or “Everything is delicious” no matter where you go can be pretty painful. You’ve already lost a lot of trust.
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Dai, a male member.
Are you saying you want to keep things cheap by going to Saizeriya or a family restaurant? That comes across as a bit stingy.
Looking at the women I’ve dated so far, you might want to try inviting women in their late teens.
The closer they are to being children, the less likely they are to appreciate the taste of a three-star restaurant.
Try targeting women who don’t like beer or ask for their sushi without wasabi.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m a male member who’s pretty much a loser.
My absolute favorite girl insists that sushi has to be conveyor-belt sushi, loves Saizeriya, and always chooses APA Hotel. She’s been that way since our first date.
I want to see what women are really like on the inside, so I never take any of them to expensive restaurants at first. Once things develop into an adult relationship (intimate), I’ll occasionally mix in nicer places.
The first-date locations are all recorded by Universe Club, so I imagine the staff must be scratching their heads, thinking:
“Really? A place like that?”
Even when it feels expensive, it’s still only ¥10,000 for two people. I said “even when it feels expensive” twice. It’s perfectly normal for the total to be under ¥5,000, and sometimes we just go to an ordinary chain café.
There are probably plenty of women like the kind the person asking this question is looking for.
That said, maybe it’s only acceptable because I pay a generous (well-paying) allowance.
Even A-type girls start out at inexpensive places. The allowance isn’t anything special either. Some ask for only 2, while others ask for 7, so I test things out in various ways—but once I’ve managed to get them to take off their emotional clothes, there are no problems.
The women even suggest an adult relationship (intimate) themselves.
Of course, you need to be perfectly prepared. Even with an A-type girl, I polish and prepare everything down to my toenails before a date.
I don’t think women are fooled by superficial effort—just polishing and preparing the parts they can see.
Could it be that you’re showing up to dates with no preparation, while expecting nothing but returns from the women?
If you entertain a woman so thoroughly that she lets out a satisfied burp and says, “I’m already full,” then Saizeriya is an easy win.
I’m sure Paper Airplane, Shingori, and Plug Maker would all nod along to the above.
I call women who have nothing going for them except being cute, make no effort, and still insist on going only to expensive restaurants “ugly.”
Other
I’m Aya, a female member.
If your papa (a male supporter) is someone you’re really close to and he gives you a generous (well-paying) allowance, you can enjoy yourself whether you go to Saizeriya or any other family restaurant. That’s because you can feel, “This person could go to an upscale restaurant, but he’s choosing a family restaurant because there’s something he specifically wants to eat there.”
But if a low-paying papa takes you to a family restaurant, you end up thinking, “He can only go to family restaurants because he can’t afford anything more upscale.” Having no choices ends up directly reflecting a man’s lack of appeal...
As a result, I think many women find themselves thinking, “Why am I eating this cheap-looking food—something I could have with my boyfriend—with a man as old as my father?”
I often use this analogy, but try looking at it from the other side. If you had to go to a family restaurant every time with a woman 30 years older than you, received only ¥30,000 per meeting, and were expected to provide intimate services at a hotel, wouldn’t that kill the mood?
I believe papa-katsu only works when you genuinely put yourself in the other person’s shoes.
🏅 手コキ評論家
入会して8年。いまだ彷徨中です
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
It’s Joe.
I’ve never taken her to a family restaurant like Saizeriya, but I have gone with her to an udon place in a highway service area. By the way, I highly recommend the burdock tempura udon at Hirokawa SA on the outbound Kyushu Expressway. It’s ¥620, and they fry the burdock tempura right there, so you can enjoy it piping hot.
That said, G-chan only agreed to join me for burdock tempura udon because we were planning to stay at a ¥120,000-a-night hotel that evening. So, you get the idea. You’ll probably have to spend quite a lot before she’ll be satisfied with just a family restaurant.
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m in Seattle.
As long as you give her the agreed allowance properly and build a good relationship, it should be fine, shouldn’t it?
Above all, treat her well and see whether you can continue getting along for about six months.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member.
I’ve never taken anyone to Saizeriya, and I can’t say whether they’d be happy about it, but I’ll share my thoughts.
I imagine she might get annoyed if it happened every time, but because of the requests to shorten business hours, there have been times when we ended up eating at a convenience store or at a love hotel. Even so, our relationship has continued without any particular problems. Come to think of it, there have also been times when we decided to go to a ramen shop and simply went. That’s what “casual and intimate” means, isn’t it?
Somehow, the part that says, “I think they’re a good person, but I suddenly lose interest at times, so we quickly part ways, and nothing has ever lasted more than three months,” made me wonder whether you might not be approaching things in a very casual way. I don’t think a casual, intimate relationship can be achieved through the woman’s efforts alone.
Other
If we know each other well, a family restaurant or ramen shop would be fine, but if we haven’t known each other long, I’d be thinking, “Huh?”
Also, does this have something to do with what makes you lose interest in women?
Marika