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Nov 5, 2021 11:48
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The previous question was answered by Flag Maker with, “A woman who genuinely fell for me, even if only for a brief moment.” That got me wondering: when do men feel that a woman has “really fallen for them”?
That’s my first question.
Looking back on my own experiences, I feel that when a PJ genuinely starts to like her papa, she may actually pull away from him. Jealousy and other difficult emotions can become too painful.
The ironic thing is that those are the only situations where I find myself thinking, “Did she really come to like me?”
Because otherwise, it could all just be flattery or an act, right?
Of course, jealousy and possessiveness can arise even when she doesn’t actually like her papa, so she may simply be struggling with how to deal with those feelings.
Still, I also feel that you probably wouldn’t become jealous or possessive of a man you had absolutely no feelings for.
I realized this because there was one woman who came back after being away for a certain period of time.
I had a chance to ask her how she had felt back then.
Apparently, she has now “attained enlightenment,” as it were, and moved on completely.
My second question is this: Among the cases where you thought the relationship was going well, but the woman nevertheless drifted away for some reason, might there actually be quite a few situations like this mixed in? Has anyone had a similar experience?
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Other
I’m Osaka, a male member.
It’s all subjective, of course, so you could say it’s just an illusion or an act and leave it at that lol.
But when her words and actions overlap with experiences from relationships I was once deeply passionate about, I start getting emotionally invested. It’s embarrassing to admit, but lol—I can definitely feel the change.
I’m not sure about reaching some kind of enlightenment, but jealousy and possessiveness exist on our side too, not just theirs. So I think that “fun but painful” feeling is a unique challenge of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
Whether it’s choosing to end things because it becomes too painful, or seeing multiple people, I think everyone just has their own way of finding a balance.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member.
As for the first question, it’s not any one specific thing—I pick up on it from the overall vibe.
Regarding the second question, I’m not sure, since no woman I’ve genuinely grown close to has drifted away so far. That said, a few months after feeling that she was truly falling for me, I have noticed that she still seemed to like me, but was calmer about it than before.
I figured I’d either done something to cool her feelings a little or she had put the brakes on emotionally.
Other
For the first time, I strongly agree with Make-otoko’s opinion (lol).
- She reacts intensely even to the lightest touch.
- She orgasms from penetration more often.
- During dates, she looks at my face from the side much more often, trying not to let me notice.
I think those points are pretty accurate.
I can’t help staring at the side of his face while he’s driving.
When I’m with someone I love, I want us to look into each other’s eyes in the missionary position.
As for the answer to the second question:
Maybe it’s because she thought the relationship was good, but it actually wasn’t.
What do you think?
Once again,
Marika
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Flag Maker, a column writer.
When allowance is involved, I don’t trust women’s outward words or behavior at all.
I’m talking about what happens after the allowance stops. Looking back, my previous answer completely missed the point. Sorry.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m a losing male member.
It was when she said, “I want to see you often, so I don’t need an allowance.”
But that’s not really the kind of answer you were looking for, is it…?
With Sue, her way of kissing suddenly became more passionate at some point. I thought, “Wait… could it be?” And it turned out I wasn’t imagining things—she had started seeing me as a man. That said, it could have been an act, so I can’t say for sure.
There have also been a few girls who never used to climax but eventually started to, and then developed genuine feelings for me.
When someone starts falling for you, doesn’t she become incredibly sensitive even from just a feather-light touch on her ears or back?
That could be acting too, I suppose, but the three women who genuinely fell for me before we parted all had these things in common:
- They reacted intensely to feather-light touches.
- They began climaxing during sex more often.
- During dates, they started looking at my face from the side much more frequently, trying not to let me notice.
■Update
Marika, I’m really happy (T_T)
I honestly thought I might get killed one day ( ; ᯅ ;`)
■Update 2
I can’t answer the second question because no woman has ever walked away from me. I know they probably don’t leave because my allowance is generous and they’re mainly interested in that, though…
■Update 3
There are two women I’m seeing who might be developing genuine feelings for me, so I’ll observe them carefully.
One of them suddenly started climaxing during our last adult date, and afterward she kept asking what type of women I liked. Then she made a suggestive comment along the lines of, “I only fall for mature men who are emotionally relaxed.”
The other girl held my hand from our very first date, completely locking her fingers with mine as we walked through town. It was the first time I’d ever walked around town holding hands with a woman.
I hope I’m just imagining things with both of them.
I’m really the worst… But I can’t bring myself to cut corners on dates. I always think everything through and carry out what I believe is the perfect date.
How am I supposed to let myself slack off…?
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Jumping in from Seattle.
① Over the past seven years, there have been about four women who, in the course of conversation, said they’d be willing to marry me. When that happens, I can feel that they’re serious, and I treat them well.
② Then, when they find out there are other women like that besides the one in ①, they pull away, though we remain friends. That’s probably because I’m honest and say, “Well, there are others too.”