Tips Oct 21, 2021 22:09

Do you discuss the allowance over dinner? I was wondering where everyone usually talks about it, so I’d appreciate your advice. I’d like to discuss the allowance somewhere the girl will feel comfortable.

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🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
Maezawa from the President’s Office here. Basically, I think it’s best to bring it up toward the end of the meal. The woman is probably also trying to figure out whether the man is a good person or not. With that in mind, I think it’s better to have some conversation first. That said, if someone isn’t confident in conversation but is confident about the allowance, it might also work to agree on the terms at the beginning and then enjoy the meal afterward. That way, even if conversation isn’t their strong suit, things may proceed more smoothly. The worst approach is to spend the entire meal talking about sexual topics. If it was agreed upon from the start, she might still go to a hotel that day because she made a commitment, but there won’t be a second time. Some feedback from women includes: “I didn’t like being touched during the meal.” “He talked about dirty things the entire time, and I hated it.” Women aren’t sex workers. Even if you expect to go to a hotel afterward, the basic rule is to treat them like ordinary women. I hope the person asking this question and all the male members will continue to conduct themselves as gentlemen.
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シアトル
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スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m in Seattle. Since most of them were either Type A or Type B, the first time, we decided on ① as soon as we met. For the second meeting, we negotiated and agreed on everything via LINE beforehand, then met up. We decided in advance whether it would include an adult relationship (intimate) or not. That way, there’s no time to overthink it.
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Fuu
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Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Fuu, a column writer. For the first date, I book a private dining room serving food the woman mentioned liking in her profile. Once we’ve finished dessert, I bring up the allowance. Since it’s a private room, there’s almost no chance of anyone overhearing us.
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🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Flag Maker, a column writer. I usually bring it up toward the end of the meal. If it’s an adult relationship (intimate) on the second meeting, I sometimes mention it later by LINE.
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🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m a male member, and definitely not one of the popular guys. I bring it up during the first half of our first dinner date—usually within five minutes of meeting. I prefer to clear up anything complicated before moving on. I’ll say something straightforward, like, “I’m thinking 100,000 yen for an adult relationship (intimate).” It’s never once ruined the atmosphere. Of course, I wait until there aren’t any staff nearby. Just as men judge women by their looks, most women are mainly interested in how capable a man is as an ATM. So I feel the conversation over dinner won’t really get going unless we discuss the allowance upfront. That’s why I’m always direct about it from the start.
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カズ
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member. I usually bring it up around dessert in a private room at the restaurant. When, for whatever reason, I can’t get a private room and there are servers nearby, I simply say, “Once we’ve finished dessert, could we discuss it outside?” Then, after leaving, I choose a relatively quiet street and talk about it in a low voice as we walk. I discuss whether we’re open to an adult relationship and the allowance after the meal because I believe club women aren’t sex workers and make those decisions based on how they feel about the person. I also decide whether to ask for an adult relationship based on the chemistry I sense while talking over dinner.
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