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Sep 28, 2021 21:30
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If anything, I’m more surprised by working adults who come to register because their pay was reduced or they lost their job due to COVID. If it’s just an amount equivalent to a pay cut, there are plenty of more wholesome side jobs out there. And if you lost your job, I can’t help thinking, “Why not put all your effort into job hunting instead of doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan)?” As a working adult, you have more freedom and all kinds of options available to you. Based on what my papas (male supporters) have told me about the women they talk to, I sometimes wonder whether they were already the type to be sexually loose, or had been doing similar side jobs, such as working in the sex industry or nightlife.
Why is it that, whenever the topic turns to college students or student loans on Q&A sites, men immediately start out by being suspicious? Even in my everyday conversations with my papas, I sometimes feel like they’re listening while doubting me.
And yet, when working adults say their pay was reduced slightly because of COVID, people don’t question them and instead sympathize. It leaves me feeling rather disappointed.
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A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Dai, a male member.
You can say that working adults have more freedom once you actually become one.
Personally, the reason doesn’t matter to me. Spending time wondering whether someone is telling the truth isn’t enjoyable, so I may think, “They could be lying to me,” but I don’t complain about it.
Still, if you have the time and energy to nitpick and question someone, I suppose that’s because your own life is comfortable enough.
Other
I’m Osaka, a male member.
I’ve heard that many sex workers are also subjected to endless lectures from their customers, only for those customers to enjoy themselves and leave. Apparently, it’s been happening for a long time.
They arbitrarily assume the worker is doing the job because she’s desperate and struggling with debt, then tell her, “You shouldn’t be doing this kind of work!” Apparently, those are the most tiresome and bothersome customers, lol.
I feel scholarships are being used as a similar target. Some students do give that excuse simply because it’s easier, and when the news reveals that it was a lie, people are shocked and can’t forgive them.
People who have opinions about how someone spends their allowance or why they do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) think no differently from those customers at sex-work establishments.
As people get older, many become more set in their assumptions and more prone to jumping to conclusions. Those who are convinced they’re right are especially tiresome, but nothing you say gets through to them, and they don’t realize it themselves. Unfortunately, people often remain just as disappointing as ever, so it’s difficult to change them—or for them to change themselves.
It’s important either to let it go as “that’s just how they are” or to spend time only with people who understand.
Some young people have moved away from adults like this and entrenched interests, built their own communities, and made them successful.
They’ll be gone before long even if you leave them alone, so you don’t need to spend too much energy on them.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
I’m Maezawa from the CEO’s office, and I’ll answer too.
I was going to hide this since it isn’t really a question, but it seemed like there were quite a few good answers, so I decided to leave it up…
That said, please keep in mind that a post asking only to share your own opinion isn’t really a question.
Other
I’m Aya, a female member.
I don’t lead with money as my main reason in the first place, but I do think it would be harder to explain papa-katsu by saying things like “I lost my temp job” or “I need money for my immediate living expenses.” It makes your financial motives feel too obvious. I get the feeling that it might be even more off-putting than saying, “I want to live a luxurious lifestyle!”
I’m not sure if people will understand this perspective, but at least I feel I’ve been successful with papa-katsu by giving reasons other than that. So I can understand where the person asking the question is coming from.
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Flag Maker, a column writer.
I think it can be an important part of good manners to knowingly take a polite lie at face value and believe it. From there, you can gradually ease into the truth. But what do you think?
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Date◎Yume, a male member.
I understand exactly what you mean, and I agree.
The women also need to give some kind of reason, or the conversation won’t go anywhere. So I think they stick to something harmless. You can’t exactly say, “Good for you, haha,” when someone’s pay has been cut because of COVID, right? (lol)
Personally, I don’t really care what the reason is. What matters is their attitude toward the relationship. As long as they’re willing to engage with me sincerely, that’s more than enough.
🏅 手コキ評論家
入会して8年。いまだ彷徨中です
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
It’s Joe here.
If I may, I’d like to share my personal thoughts on student loans.
I think joining a dating club to pay off student loans is perfectly reasonable. I wouldn’t question or make fun of that motivation.
That said, when someone writes on their profile that they’re doing it because “repaying the loans will probably be tough once I start working,” even though repayment hasn’t actually begun yet, I can’t help thinking, “You’re a few fries short of a Happy Meal.” Whether someone as short on brainpower as Joe has any right to say that is another question (or is it?)—but student loans are about as friendly as debt gets. You just need to pay them back slowly, savoring each payment. Basically, you shouldn’t repay them all at once. Otherwise, you’ll miss out on the unique pleasure of gradually paying them off.
Unlike in our day, it is a little unfortunate that they come with interest now, but compared with loans from consumer-finance companies, the interest rates are unbelievably low. They can even teach you a thing or two about money.
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Fuu, a column writer.
You’re free to use your allowance however you like.
Whether it’s for student loans, reduced income due to COVID, beauty expenses, or living costs—
use it however you wish.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member.
I don’t understand it either.
That said, some companies prohibit side jobs, so I can understand why someone might not want to take one on. Working adults have their own circumstances, and everyone’s situation is different.
In any case, I don’t think there’s any particular situation where having an allowance-based relationship is automatically the right choice. It’s pointless to judge other people’s circumstances.
So, what’s your question?