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Sep 23, 2021 20:24
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I live in Kansai and am a Black member.
Recently, I’ve been disappointed to see the number of members in Kansai—especially Kobe and Kyoto—decline.
According to the club, they delete members they can no longer contact, so I suppose that can’t be helped.
This is more of a question—or rather, something I’m wondering about—regarding relationship types.
Recently, leaving aside Platinum and Black members, I’ve noticed that many women in the Standard and Gold classes are listing themselves as Relationship Type A or B. Where do they get that confidence?
There are already so many women competing for offers, yet I’m honestly amused by what value women in those classes think they can provide by choosing A or B.
Personally, regardless of whether things would develop into a relationship that day, I would never make an offer.
Spending time with someone who can’t assess her own value is a waste of time.
I think most business owners value their time above all else.
I wonder if it’s because they don’t know their own class, or perhaps because the club has carefully interviewed them about their preferred relationship type. But frankly, choosing A or B seems almost like saying, “Please don’t make me an offer.”
I don’t even think the club needs to accept women like this. What does everyone else think?
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いっつ・みぃ
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Age: 50s
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Other
It’s me.
Sen-chan, honestly, your post is packed with things to call out—way more than things to answer, lol.
> I’m disappointed that the number of members, especially in Kobe and Kyoto, has been declining.
Have you ever thought, “Maybe I’m partly responsible for that?”
If you’re a business owner too, Sen-chan, you should work on your imagination a little more. If I were a woman and my first offer came from a man as condescending as you, trying to force his values on me, I’d probably quit.
> Where does that confidence come from?
I don’t think it’s necessarily confidence. Maybe they choose Type A or B because that style of dating suits them.
> I’m honestly baffled and amused by what value women of that rank could possibly offer to be classified as Type A or B.
“What value could they possibly offer?” The fact that you seem to think a woman’s only value is offering her body is seriously creepy!
It’s the same as those women looking at you and laughing in disbelief, saying, “Other than money, what value do you have, Sen-chan?”
> I think most business owners value their time above all else.
Time is important, but business owners also need the ability to quickly recognize the value of someone they’ve just met.
Sen-chan, aren’t you judging women’s value by their class and dating type without even meeting them?
People who lack ability tend to judge others based only on their titles and writing. I wonder which kind of person you are, Sen-chan.
> I don’t think women like this even need to be accepted by the club. What does everyone else think?
I don’t agree. I believe diversity increases the club’s value.
By the way, did you actually interview those women yourself?
How do you feel about trying to interfere with the hiring process when you weren’t even present at their interviews, Sen-chan?
And while I’m at it…
【Correct】Platinum ← 【Incorrect】Plutinam
I considered letting it slide since the meaning was clear, but after saying all this, I couldn’t very well ignore that one too, lol.
By the way, did you know that this kind of English mistake is hugely popular with foreigners? You could make T-shirts with it and sell them. They’d be hard to find overseas.
Oh, I’m sorry. How presumptuous and rude of me to offer advice to a globally minded business owner.
…Hmm? Did I go too far?
Sorry if I offended you, Sen-chan.
But you know, the wonderful Type A and B female members who read your question may be even more offended, as might the staff who work hard every day on recruitment to improve the service.
Sorry this got so long.
Other
I’d never want to work for someone like you—so narrow-minded, judgmental, self-righteous, and completely deluded.
Go ahead and hand a stack of cash to some “black” woman and date her however you please.
Akari
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Fuu, a columnist.
Like Sen-chan, I also wouldn’t make offers to women in dating Types A or B.
That said, I don’t think there’s any reason not to accept them. Since the number of male members is growing, I think it’s better in the long run to cast a wider net and welcome more female members. We’d be happy to have women who start out as Type A, get used to papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), move up to B or C, and then feel ready to change their type.
There are also a few male members who have gotten tired of B and C and want to pursue or win over a Type A woman. For their sake too, I think it’s perfectly fine to have them.
Other
I’m Tetsu, a male member.
Isn’t it the other way around? I think many women are placed in the Standard or Gold category because they’re Type A or B.
Other
I’m Osaka, a male member.
Sen-chan—the questioner introduced themselves in a new and rather amusing way, so it made me chuckle a little. I was curious why they did that, but never mind lol.
Anyway, putting aside the part about not forcing your own standards on others, I understand what Sen-chan is trying to say. Looking at this question and answer, I think it can be useful as a reference, whether positively or negatively, so I don’t see a problem with it.
When it comes to how people use their time, everyone is different—not just in this kind of activity. Being with someone whose sense of time doesn’t match yours can be exhausting. Some people act as if they have unlimited time, after all. Whenever you share time with someone, it inevitably involves using up some of their time as well, so there are moments when it feels wasteful, and you want the other person to be mindful of that too. I’ve also found myself getting irritated, feeling almost desperate not to waste time.
But when I started thinking that spending time “wastefully” might actually be the ultimate luxury, I felt a little better. Spending money on hobbies or making impulse purchases may seem pointless to other people, but isn’t being able to enjoy something “pointless” a luxury in itself? Deliberately wasting time, lol. If that broadens the ways you can enjoy making offers, all the better.
After all, getting irritated is the real waste of time.
That said, men have the authority at the beginning to decide whether or not to make an offer, so male members can control their time more than female members. And laughing at someone who never intended to make an offer in the first place—isn’t Sen-chan indulging in a little luxury too? lol
Other
People like you, throwing your weight around at dating clubs while calling yourselves “black class,” are far more harmful.
Just keep quiet and pay black-class women a fortune to spend time with you.
Marika
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Dai, a male member.
Putting Type B aside, it’s possible that the Type A women have been placed in a lower class for that very reason.
If a woman who would be Platinum as a Type B or C is listed as Gold simply because she’s Type A, then the questioner’s point doesn’t really hold up, does it?
Even if you don’t need that information, can’t you consider that it might be useful to other men?
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お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
I’m Maezawa from the President’s Office, and I’ll answer this one too.
There was a question a little while ago saying something like, “Men who have genitals for brains,” but it seems the questioner is the same way.
Just because that’s how you are doesn’t mean everyone else is. That’s a pretty hasty assumption.
There are all kinds of people in this world.
There aren’t many men who make offers to A-ranked women, but they do exist. And as for the whole “in my class” thing, if you’re only writing from your own subjective perspective, I can’t help wondering what you’re even talking about.
To begin with, how much allowance are you offering?
You call it “black,” but even among black members, some offer low allowances.
I don’t really think men like you need to be accepted by the club in the first place, so feel free to withdraw and go somewhere else.
Most other dating clubs probably don’t offer a “dinner only” option, so why not go there?
Please withdraw.
Though I suppose properly giving your name is what you’d expect from a black member.
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会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Paper Airplane, a male member.
Within the club, members are divided into two groups: those looking for offers, and those looking for relationships.
Likewise, because time is precious and valuable, people are divided into those who want to make the most of it and those who prefer to take things at a more relaxed pace.
To put it bluntly, I think those women probably feel they don’t need an offer from you.
There are also quite a few men and women who simply want to enjoy dating.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member.
That may just be how you see it; there are certainly men with different opinions.
I’m honestly dumbfounded by business owners who think their own values are absolute—I can only laugh wryly.