What, specifically, is considered “winning” as a woman?
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I feel that it means being able to date without doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), marry an intelligent, highly accomplished man with a high social status who proposes to you, and have him be a handsome, devoted man who never cheats or does papa-katsu.
And having intelligent children.
What do you think?
Among your friends who do papa-katsu, are there any wealthy men who are devoted exclusively to their girlfriends or wives?
Could you tell me specifically what kind of men they are?
Thank you in advance!
I’m Fuu, a columnist.
There’s no clear-cut definition of what makes someone a “winner” or a “loser,” so I think that’s something you should decide for yourself, based on how you truly feel inside.
Successful, attractive men tend to be popular, so finding one who never cheats may be quite difficult. If you narrow your search to loyal, one-woman men, you may have better odds with someone who isn’t particularly successful or handsome. That said, even attractive men can be faithful—or unfaithful. You can’t control the other person, after all.
Does he really have to be completely devoted? Is being devoted really such a good thing? As you get older, staying devoted to each other forever can sometimes become difficult for both of you.
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I’m だて◎ゆめ, a male member.
I think you’re winning at life if you can live the way you envision. That’s not always easy, though. For example, I find someone I like and make an offer, only to get “Offer declined (sob).” That’s just how it goes.
Enjoy the life you’ve imagined for yourself.
> Among your friends who are men involved in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), do you know any wealthy men who are devoted to their girlfriends or wives?
> Could you tell us specifically what kind of men they are?
With the “wealthy” part as a prerequisite, no one really comes to mind. Some people around me even keep their partners hidden away overseas rather than in Japan.
Men with money tend to be pretty loose（笑）
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I’m Paper Airplane, a male member.
I think there are many people just as you describe.
And I’m sure some of those people are also active in the club.
Even if their families and society see them that way, I don’t think being active in the club is necessarily a bad thing.
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Both Momoe Yamaguchi and Seiko Matsuda seem to be enjoying life.
So if I had to choose, I’d say the real winner is someone who ended up living the life they wanted.
Though ultimately, I suppose we won’t know until the day we die.
One of my papa’s friends is also completely devoted to his wife.
They’ve been married for over 20 years, and apparently they’re still intimate every week.
I don’t know what kind of man he is specifically, though.
Marika
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I’m Dai, a male member.
Life isn’t a game, so things don’t always go the way you want.
It seems like you’d be better off going to the world of video games, where you can press the reset button whenever things don’t go according to plan.
By the way, I enjoy dating women now, but when I was married, I never cheated on my wife—not even once.
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I’m Osaka, a male member.
There are so many questions that it’s hard to answer, but when it comes to life, people place importance on different things—whether they feel fulfilled and happy rather than whether they’ve “won” or “lost.” So ultimately, the judgment has to be based on the questioner’s own values.
The word “devoted” comes up a lot, but which is better: a man who changes the woman he dates every month while always loving one woman at a time, or a man who has loved only two women over the course of his entire life? Depending on the circumstances, doesn’t even “devotion” become questionable?
I do know wealthy men who are devoted to the wives or girlfriends they’re looking for. I can’t exactly grab one of them and ask, “Why?” so I don’t know his feelings or principles. Maybe he has someone else and I just don’t know about it lol.
Money, status, looks, education, family background, occupation, and so on—there are many forms of power. The more power people have, the more they may want to use it or increase it. Depending on the kind of power, they may get arrogant, or lose sight of something because of their desires. That’s just human nature, isn’t it?
Being young and handsome is also a form of power, so what about all those handsome Johnny’s idols? lol
Do they have to be devoted? Don’t they fool around?
When I hear women say that it can’t be helped because they’re popular, I feel like pointing that out—but maybe that popularity itself is also a form of power.
That’s just one way of looking at it, so please take my answer lightly lol.
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Of course there are.
Whether they have money or not, people who cheat will cheat, and people who don’t, won’t.
I also feel that papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) is somewhat different from cheating.
In most cases, I think they’re either:
- Buying the right to date attractive women who probably wouldn’t give them the time of day otherwise, or
- Buying the right to date in a setting without the social complications.
Calling them “winners” is just looking at things superficially.
Akari
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I’m in Seattle.
Among my coworkers, there’s exactly one man who never cheats.
He’s single and in his 40s. He’s tall, handsome, and kind. He works out and has a great body. Financially, I think he’d rank among the top tier if he joined a club.
He’s a mama’s boy and always travels with his girlfriend and his mother. He barely spends any money on his house or car either. Maybe he simply has an exceptionally accommodating girlfriend who’s willing to go along with all of it.
We joke around about how he’s going to die leaving behind a billion yen.
Come to think of it, there’s one other person I know who never cheats: a coworker in his 40s who resembles Bae Yong-joon and has an incredibly beautiful wife.
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I’m Ayase Nana ♡
> Falling in love without doing papa-katsu, getting proposed to and marrying an accomplished man with high social status, and having him also be a faithful, handsome guy who never cheats or does papa-katsu
> Having smart children
Don’t you think men with high social status inevitably end up cheating?
(Please just think of it as something men do.)
I don’t think marriage is the only way to come out on top.
When I see women who’ve started businesses and achieved success in various fields, I think, “Wow, that’s so cool and inspiring.”
I’d like to start a business too and properly support my children’s dreams. I don’t know what I should do or where to start, but it’s something I aspire to.
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I’m Maezawa from the CEO’s office, and I’ll answer this as well.
I’m not sure whether the concept of “winners” is even necessary,
but perhaps it all comes down to
how you die.
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