Tips Sep 15, 2021 21:25

When men repeatedly fail to give the allowance, try to deceive you, or insist that trips are exempt from payment and therefore refuse to give an allowance, isn’t that against the whole purpose of a dating club?

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To eliminate men like this, I wish women were told during interviews or when they receive an offer that they can submit feedback not only after the first meeting, but at any point, even after meeting several times. (Sorry if this has already been explained.) Women who are inexperienced or have only received a few offers, or who are easily persuaded, may assume that it’s too late to report anything after they’ve met someone several times. That’s what I thought, too. I also don’t want other women to encounter men who repeatedly enjoy the benefits of the arrangement while expecting everything for free. It feels like these men take advantage of the fact that it’s very difficult to bring up money, so women don’t feel able to be assertive. I understand that men who repeatedly refuse to pay the allowance without mutual agreement will be warned, but when such a man makes his next offer, will the woman receiving it be alerted? For example, will she be told, “Please discuss the allowance carefully in advance and make your own decision about whether to meet him,” or something similar? I’ve never received any such warning, and I’ve encountered several men like this, so I’m becoming increasingly distrustful. Since I’m on the older side, it makes me sad to feel as though I’m being brushed off. ※I have already reported this, as I was told that feedback can be submitted at any time.
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紙ひこうき
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Hikōki, a male member. When it comes to relationships between men and women, only the two people involved know whether they were truly satisfied. Some couples are happy dining at Michelin-starred restaurants, while others feel more at ease at a conveyor-belt sushi place. Some feel most comfortable in a Ferrari or Porsche, while others are perfectly satisfied believing that Japanese kei cars are the best in the world. People are different, and that’s exactly how it should be. Some people feel uncomfortable moving forward after agreeing on an allowance as if it were a contract. Others want to let things naturally and pleasantly progress to the bedroom without discussing an allowance, then continue deepening their intimate relationship—a club arrangement with as little of the “club” or papa-katsu feeling as possible, where both people can rely on each other over the long term. Everyone is different. P.S. Regardless of the class, the allowance is 50,000 yen or less, and room dates can last as long as a full day with no time limit… Some people are satisfied with a high allowance, while others don’t place much importance on it. Some people continue making and accepting offers, while others deepen a wonderful relationship to the point where offers are no longer necessary. There’s room for all kinds of people… One of the great things about a club is that both types can coexist. I believe the club’s continued success comes from creating a virtuous cycle in which women, too—not just men—are highly satisfied, with many women graduating or leaving after meeting a wonderful man.
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前澤(スタッフ)
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🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
I’ll answer too—Maezawa from the President’s Office. Huh? There seem to be a lot of harsh answers this time. But I don’t agree with the idea that somehow the woman is to blame when she’s raped. The man who raped her is at fault. So when it comes to picking women up or dating sites, where people just want to have sex for free, those places are basically lawless, and I have no intention of getting involved. At least at a dating club, it’s understood from the outset that compensation is involved. So at Universe Club, I can’t tolerate men like that. Of course, if a woman genuinely falls for a man while they’re seeing each other and they both agree to it, that’s a different matter. But what’s described here isn’t that kind of situation, so at Universe Club, we want to do whatever we reasonably can to help. The changes to our review system are part of that effort, as was the creation of the Universe Police. We’re also planning to introduce lawyers for people who want to take legal action against someone but don’t know any lawyers personally. (It’s still only in the planning stage, so it may not happen.) That said, we would only be making introductions to lawyers, and their usual fees would still apply. Lawyers generally charge a retainer and a success fee, so you’d need at least ¥300,000. They would also take a fixed percentage of whatever money you recover from the other party as their fee. So if you can’t afford those costs, I think you’d be better off using Houterasu, Japan’s legal support center. (If your income is low, installment payments may be available, and the fees are lower to begin with.) > Will you warn the woman about that man when he makes his next offer? We used to, but I feel like we don’t anymore. As I mentioned before, it’s because the woman ends up telling the man, and then he complains. I sometimes wonder why they tell him things like, “This is what was written about you.” Don’t they realize that once they tell him, they’ll be asked to delete it? Maybe it’s the same principle as men teaching women about their ranking or class level—perhaps they enjoy telling someone something the other person doesn’t know? That’s the kind of situation it becomes: If we issue a warning, the woman who was warned tells the man, and then we’re forced to delete it. Women are their own worst enemies… Something like that, maybe? That said, as long as we receive feedback, the information is recorded internally. So when a woman receives an offer, she might ask: “There was a man before who didn’t want to pay an allowance. The man I’m being introduced to this time doesn’t have feedback like that, right?” We can’t share the details of the feedback, but I think she’d receive a reply like: “You don’t need to worry about this person.” If it’s a really dangerous man, the response would probably be more like: “We can’t share the details of the feedback, but would you like to decline?”
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カズ
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member. Universe Club is a company that arranges dinner dates. That’s its purpose. So if the transportation allowance wasn’t given, you can reasonably expect the club to step in. But what does it mean to ask them to somehow handle it for you just because you find it difficult to say yourself? You mentioned that you’re on the older side, but if you’re an adult, you should take responsibility for your own actions. Cleaning up after you isn’t Universe Club’s job.
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負け男
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m a losing male member. I’m Maezawa, the person sent into the Q&A box to wipe out those rotten dickheads. - For an adult relationship, you should pay an allowance of at least 60,000 yen. In Nagoya, pay at least 70,000 yen. You should also clearly state the maximum length of an in-room date. - If you want an adult relationship during an overnight trip, pay for two sessions. If you’re only paying for one, don’t have an adult relationship during the trip. - Even if you’ve had a vasectomy, you should still use a condom. Going bare should be treated as rape. - If it comes to light that you haven’t paid the allowance, you should be immediately expelled and the incident announced as breaking news. Example: “A man in the Nagoya branch was caught having an adult relationship without paying an allowance and was forcibly expelled.” - Aggressive fingering is prohibited. - A Magikarp kiss costs extra. - Smoothly tell her the date’s end time before the date begins. - Be grateful that she’s entrusting you with her young, beautiful body, and be prepared to date her while also thinking about her future in old age. - Understand that foreplay begins from the moment you sit down for the meal. - Humbly realize that paying an allowance only brings you to an equal footing with the woman—or slightly below it. - Using casual speech on the first date is out of the question. Even if she’s 30 years younger than you, speak politely. - Don’t walk around town with her. If you want to, pay an additional fee. - If you want to touch her during dinner or while riding in a taxi, pay an additional fee. - Shower and brush your teeth right before the date. - Don’t meet her in dirty shoes or clothes. - Check your nose hair—and your ear hair, of course. - Keep your VIO hair, chest hair, and so on neatly groomed. - Don’t loudly say things like “The allowance is 70,000 yen” during dinner. - Give her the club-designated transportation fee for the first meeting before the meal. - Before entering the room, clearly state the allowance for the adult relationship, and hand it over before doing anything intimate. I’m sure some people will disagree, but I practice every one of the above. There’s still more, but I’m getting tired of writing.
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だて◎ゆめ
👨 Male Universe member
I’m だて◎ゆめ, a male member. Questions like yours have come up several times before. I understand that it may be difficult for the club to take action based on just one report, but if they receive the same feedback about the same person repeatedly, they should be able to conclude it was intentional. So I’d encourage you not to give up and to keep submitting your feedback. Also, other men may think the same way, so be sure to discuss the terms thoroughly beforehand.
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