I asked this question here: https://universe-club.jp/help/questions/view/7792
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Actually, I posted a question on this site and on Bengo4.com to find out whether an acquaintance from high school who is engaging in serious fraud should be reported.
Here’s the main issue.
First of all, I’m not a member of this club, and I don’t do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) or anything like that. I earn money honestly through part-time jobs such as tutoring.
There’s a girl, A, who was in my class in high school. According to her, she used to be a member of this club but has already left.
Right after graduating from high school, she started making boastful posts on social media hinting that she was earning money through papa-katsu. Her female friends disliked her, and recently she has been openly posting about papa-katsu on a private account, including things like getting cosmetic surgery on her nose, buying a 300,000-yen designer handbag, and giving expensive bottles of alcohol to hosts.
When I contacted her through DMs pretending to be a papa-katsu woman, she proudly told me that she was getting two men to support her financially under the pretext of paying her tuition.
She got into a national university after taking an extra year to prepare, and because she also repeated a year, she is technically still a first-year student. However, she lies and claims to be a third-year student, matching the age she would be if she had progressed normally.
With one man, she said, “I’m a third-year student in the [specific faculty] at University A,” naming a real private university and faculty. She also obtained a screenshot of the grades page from a friend who actually attended that university with her in middle and high school, and sent him a message saying, “My family is poor, but I’ve worked this hard and gotten these grades.” Apparently, in addition to money she received in exchange for sex, he also handed her a tuition payment twice a year.
With another older man, she claimed to be a second-year student in a science and engineering faculty at University B, pretending to be another real private university student. During a meal, she supposedly teared up and told him that one of her siblings had died in a traffic accident several years ago, that her parents had become mentally ill and could no longer work, and that she had had to repeat a year because she worked too much. She showed him a newspaper article about a traffic accident involving an actual victim with the same surname as her and convinced him it was true. She even ordered a brochure from that university and showed it to him, saying, “I attend this faculty at this private university, so this is how much my tuition costs per semester.” She said he handed her a large amount of money equivalent to the tuition for a science and engineering faculty at University B.
If this is true, then even as someone who isn’t a lawyer, I can’t see how it’s anything other than a case of fraud that could lead to her arrest. It also made me look down on the people registered here a little, wondering if they’re all like this. And do men involved in papa-katsu really believe anything as long as the woman is young, beautiful, and willing to have sex with them—even if she’s lying?
My question is: Since she was my classmate in high school, I don’t want her to be arrested, but I would like to stop her without getting her arrested. Is there anything I can do? She isn’t a current member, so this has nothing to do with the club, but this is an anonymous question box.
I’m Shingo Lee (Shingori), a columnist.
People in the papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) scene seem to have surprisingly little sense of danger. The police actually keep an eye on communities that could potentially become breeding grounds for crime.
Some people still think that “scamming” is fine as long as the victim doesn’t report it personally, but that’s not the case. The police often overlook minor individual cases, but they may take action once it becomes a broader community, such as the “papa-katsu scene.”
As long as something is criminal, it’s quite common these days for “it’s been fine so far” to suddenly become “it’s no longer fine.” In recent years, the police have also started taking independent action more often in the burner-account and pickup-artist communities.
Well, this doesn’t really answer your question, does it?
> Also, do men in papa-katsu believe women even when they’re lying, as long as they’re young, beautiful, and willing to have sex?
People in the papa-katsu scene are, after all, usually the ones doing the “giving.” As described in the book *Give and Take*, which was popular two years ago, givers don’t tend to be compatible with takers who exploit them.
If a woman’s mindset is “I’m going to squeeze as much money out of him as possible,” things are naturally more likely to end that way.
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I’m a male member, Paper Airplane.
We don’t know how much of what the questioner heard is actually true. And for a papa-katsu woman, breaking down in tears and saying, “I was raped in the past…” might be second nature.
I think you should verify the facts a little more, although I don’t think there’s really any way to do that.
Also, what exactly is the man’s harm in this situation? If he’s receiving an adult relationship (intimate), that isn’t clear either.
If two consenting adults with life experience entered into a relationship, I think it would simply be seen as the compensation for that relationship. If there was absolutely no physical relationship, then it would be a different story…
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I’m Fuu, a column writer.
It’s considered fraud if the person who was defrauded files a complaint, but if they don’t, nothing happens. It’s a civil matter between the parties involved. People seem to be letting their imaginations run wild, but I doubt the police would suddenly make an arrest. It would be different if related offenses such as assault or murder were involved, though.
Your acquaintance is struggling financially, so she’s skillfully getting money from her papas. If you want her to stop, what are you going to do about the money? Would you, being such a kind person, lend her some? Or would you become a guarantor when she borrows money? You’d probably have a hard time too. Even if you get involved, it doesn’t seem like there’s anything in it for you.
Also, if creating an impersonation account to obtain evidence makes you a fraudster, then that’s fraud too. Just like in your acquaintance’s case, nothing will happen if no one files a complaint, though (lol).
It’s true that the male members here are people who want to date younger women, including an intimate relationship. Since your acquaintance gets a lot of money from her papas, I imagine she must be exceptionally attractive and talented at papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
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I’m Aya, a female member.
Since there are already plenty of answers, I think the main question has been covered, but regarding:
> Do men in papa-katsu believe anything—even lies—as long as the woman is young, beautiful, and willing to have sex with them?
Unfortunately, there are many men like that. That’s the world of papa-katsu. For your own sake, I think people who live in the ordinary world are better off not getting involved with it at all.
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I’m Nana Ayase ♡
It was way too long, so I stopped reading halfway through.
Are you planning to save that friend of yours?
I don’t think everyone here is like that, though.
I honestly don’t understand how you can say that everyone is 100% the same just because that person is.
Your writing is hard to follow. Are you okay?
Most papas are people who hold positions of authority.
They can see through lies—you’re just being allowed to think you’re fooling them.
What an idiot…
And your resentment comes through loud and clear in your writing.
Instead of worrying about other people, shouldn’t you get your own life together a little more?
You’d better do something about how empty you are inside.
Just leave it alone. Just leave it alone.
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It seems like they won’t be arrested unless the man who paid realizes he was deceived, gets angry enough to press charges, and the deception can actually be proven.
Personally, I might think, “Someone like that deserves to be arrested.”
You’re very kind, though.
Still, it sounds difficult to make her stop. Even if she cuts ties with that papa, she’ll probably find another one, tell him about her hardships, and squeeze money out of him.
Marika
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I’m Dai, a male member.
Even if you were friends back in high school, you’re still separate individuals, so I think it’s best not to interfere.
That woman may be putting on a convincing act, but the men who were deceived probably aren’t bothered by losing that amount of money.
They may even be deliberately letting themselves be deceived.
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I’m Date◎Yume, a male member.
That friend of yours is quite the talented actress（笑）
Maybe she could do well if she became an actress.
In my experience with women from dating clubs, I haven’t come across any particularly convincing actresses. I suspect there aren’t many women who are that good at pretending.
As time passes, she’ll probably leave the dating club eventually, so I think time will resolve the issue.
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I’m in Seattle.
It reminds me of Kanae Kijima, the woman on death row. Personally, I think the person who gets deceived is the fool. It’s strange not to realize what’s going on.
Lies that are unnatural and bound to be exposed eventually are poorly done. If you’re going to deceive someone, you should do it skillfully to the very end and leave them happy. Of course, you mustn’t kill anyone.
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