I’m from the countryside and don’t know much about food, so I always make reservations at restaurants my favorite women want to visit. Unfortunately, I have an unrefined palate, so I can’t tell the difference between a 5,000-yen course, a 10,000-yen course, or one costing more than 20,000 yen. If anything, there are even times when I find casual, budget-friendly food tastier. I understand that the atmosphere, views, and service are part of what you’re paying for. However, since I can’t appreciate any difference beyond that, going to an expensive restaurant every time sometimes feels wasteful to me, and I struggle with that.
Don’t any of you feel the same way? And if I said something like this to a woman who had taken the trouble to choose a restaurant, would it put her off?
I’m Nana Ayase ♡
Please wait until you’ve gone on several dates before taking her out for B-grade gourmet.
You’re inviting a woman on a date, so it’s not enough for only you to think the food is cheap and delicious.
You want to get all lovey-dovey, right?
If you don’t feed the fish you’ve caught, it’ll swim away in no time.
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I’ll answer too—Maezawa from the executive suite.
> “It feels like a waste for me.”
That’s understandable if you’re eating there alone. But on a date, the woman is the main focus.
If you’ve thought, “What can I do to make her happy?” and concluded that taking her to a place like that would be effective, then it’s strange to call it a waste.
If you simply want to be cheap, I think you’re better off not dating at all, because the expenses will keep adding up. This is a place for men who value the time they spend with women more than the money they spend.
If by “a waste” you mean that the woman isn’t enjoying herself, then you should consider a different approach. But if you personally feel it’s wasteful, that just means you’re being stingy.
I think you should remember the original purpose of this arrangement.
With that in mind, I think Hikoki-san’s suggestion is quite good: give the woman 20,000–30,000 yen, tell her she can keep the change, and ask her to make a reservation at a restaurant you want to go to.
If it’s a restaurant costing around 5,000 yen, you’ll be satisfied, while she gets to go somewhere she wanted to visit and keep the change—a win-win situation.
If even that feels like a waste, you should recognize that you’re simply being cheap. In that case, I think you should stop using a dating club.
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I’m だて◎ゆめ, a male member.
I’m with 紙ひこうき!
I’m a real country boy myself, and sometimes I find that even expensive places aren’t all that tasty.
I think it was 紙ひこうき who mentioned this before, but he would give the woman the date budget in advance and let her choose the restaurant and other parts of the date. I thought that was a great idea, so I’ve started doing the same.
These days, I let her choose the restaurant, and if there’s anything left over, she can keep it as pocket money.
They’re always happy to look for a place（笑）
Some of the restaurants even have private rooms, and the whole thing works out really well.
Highly recommended!（笑）
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I’m Paper Airplane, a male member.
From now on, why not hand her a little extra each time—say 2,000 or 3,000 yen—and say, “I’m going to the restroom, so use this to pay”? Let her keep the change, even when the meal is only a 5,000-yen course.
That way, it’ll usually come to just under 5,000 yen per person. Sometimes you might feel like going to Starbucks or a fast-food place—in those cases, give her 2,000 yen as well.
If she chose the restaurant, I’m sure any dish will taste good to her. Still, I think it feels more worthwhile to give her the money than to spend 10,000 or 20,000 yen unnecessarily on a meal.
Also, if you want to eat something delicious:
Fish, vegetables, and other ingredients are cheapest when they’re in season, while out-of-season ingredients that don’t taste as good tend to be more expensive. So a skilled, conscientious restaurant will generally offer excellent value—and delicious food.
Besides, if a girl chooses something she genuinely wants to eat, the bill will probably stay around 5,000 yen per person, and rarely exceed 10,000 yen. Conversely, if she can only choose restaurants costing over 10,000 yen, she must have an exceptionally poor palate. A long-term arrangement would be impossible.
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I think the most enjoyable thing is dining with a woman who can appreciate the food and have a good time together at a restaurant whose taste and prices you’re comfortable with.
On the other hand, it’s not much fun eating with a man who’s thinking, “This place isn’t even that good, and it’s so expensive.”
That said, people in the countryside are often surrounded by incredibly delicious ingredients in their everyday lives—from fresh seasonal vegetables and seafood to the water and even the rice.
Marika
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I’m Kazu, a male member.
At the same restaurant, I think the difference between a ¥5,000 course and a ¥10,000 course usually comes down to the number of dishes and the ingredients. It’s perfectly normal to sometimes find B-grade gourmet food more delicious.
With a woman I’ve been seeing regularly, we often end up going somewhere simply because she says she wants to eat a particular dish, regardless of the restaurant bill.
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I’m in Seattle.
Same here—conveyor-belt sushi is the best.
There’s no point taking your money to the grave, so let’s enjoy the expensive stuff without worrying about it.
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