Tips
May 28, 2021 23:49
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I read an answer in the Q&A saying, “I've never been turned down by a C-type woman at a first meeting.” Even if that's unusual, it sounds like many members have a very high success rate with adult relationships, which gives me hope!
I imagine it depends on the woman and the date, but how much of an allowance should I offer for a woman to say yes? (I assume the higher, the better.)
I’d really appreciate any advice on how to present the allowance and other tips!
Thank you in advance.
6 answers
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the president’s office here, answering as well.
> “I read that you’ve never been turned down by a Type C woman on a first meeting. Even if you’re an exceptionally rare case, hearing that everyone has such a high success rate is inspiring!”
Men think that way, which is why things have started getting weird around Type B:
“Are Type B women more like Type C? Or more like Type A?”
It’s a hassle.
B is B. (笑)
Just to be clear:
If you’re expecting a high rate of intimacy, choose Type D.
Even with Type D, you may still be turned down. This isn’t a brothel, so women have the right to say no.
Please understand Type C as having roughly a 50% chance of intimacy.
These days, we generally avoid stating specific odds, but in the past, I used to explain that Type C meant 50%.
That hasn’t changed: one out of two women is allowed to turn you down.
That’s what Type C means.
It’s perfectly fine for a woman to say, “I’m declining because you’re not my type.”
I don’t think women would actually put it that way, but with Type C, women are free to choose men based on their preferences.
“I’m declining because you look older than I expected.”
“I’m declining because you’re overweight.”
“I’m declining because you’re not my type physically.”
None of those are a problem.
> “How much allowance should I offer for a woman to agree?”
Rather than trying to take control of the negotiation, if you’re unsure, I think it’s best to offer the amount the woman is asking for.
If she says, “I’ll leave the allowance up to you,” I think you should give her a little extra.
Men want to keep the amount low, while women want it to be high.
So the right amount is probably one that makes the man think, “This might be a little generous.” Even then, the woman may still feel that it’s slightly low.
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彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Fuu, a columnist.
Yes! It feels like I’m living in a dream.
I only make offers to Type C women, and 87.5% of the female members agreed to H at the first meeting.
Over the past two years through last year, out of 24 offers, 21 led to H and 3 didn’t.
And that’s coming from an unpopular guy like me.
For more details, please see my column:
https://universe-club.jp/column/sekirara11
Honestly, this club’s system is fantastic.
As for how to present the allowance, I think your chances of starting an arrangement will improve if you simply ask what the other person hopes for and pay that amount—assuming you have the financial means.
I have a set amount that I’m willing to offer. If the female member wants more than that, then unfortunately, that’s where we part ways.
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Flag Maker, a columnist.
I go for safe, ordinary dates and present myself as a normal, harmless guy. I tend to tone down any hint of intimacy so much that women often say, “Oh, I thought you weren’t going to make a move today.”
I’ve compiled various tips in this column:
https://universe-club.jp/column/survivehimote
Other
I’m Taro, a male member.
What a wonderfully youthful question—love it, love it(笑)
First, put aside the mindset of “How can I sleep with this girl?” That predatory intent always comes across to women and turns them off.
Think of this as basically a game where you lose points for mistakes. Women may be prepared for what’s involved, but that doesn’t mean they’ll accept a man who falls outside their comfort zone. So all you need to do is act clean and presentable, mind your manners, and build a fun, friendly relationship. That’s enough. Trying to make some big personal appeal can be hit or miss, so it’s actually better not to do that at the first meeting.
In the end, they’re concerned about risks like bad breath, power harassment, strange habits, or unusual sexual preferences if things progress to an adult relationship (intimate). So it’s enough to show that you don’t pose those risks. There’s no need to say so yourself—better not to. She’ll judge for herself through normal conversation, and if she wants to know something, she’ll ask.
As for the allowance, first ask what she’s hoping for. If she seems uncomfortable bringing it up, state your offer yourself, but leave room for negotiation. Even if you think it’s outrageously high, especially with women recruited through scouts, they may have been given inflated expectations. If you like her, I recommend accepting it at first. After you’ve had an adult relationship (intimate) a few times, if you still feel it’s too high, you can negotiate. Once you know whether you seem compatible, your answer might change.
I hope you find a great girl. Good luck.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Papercraft, a male member.
Basically, I don’t think women who are Type C intend to turn things down.
They come to meet you already prepared to move things forward without refusing, as long as they don’t feel uncomfortable about progressing to an adult relationship (intimate)—based on the way you talk and behave after meeting, your interest in her beyond just wanting her physically, your kindness, and so on.
Rather than focusing on how much the allowance will be, I think the natural flow of things before that is more important. It can affect both the amount she receives and whether she ultimately turns you down.
From the woman’s perspective, the important thing is to make sure she feels good, comfortable, and enjoys herself—and receives her allowance. Don’t, under any circumstances, approach it with the mindset that you want to successfully move things to an adult relationship or simply want to feel good yourself.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member.
There have been times when we couldn’t move on to sex at the first meeting because we couldn’t agree on the allowance. A few weeks later, the woman contacted me and asked whether I would meet her for the allowance I had offered.
As long as you think the allowance amount alone determines whether you’ll be rejected, you probably will be. What you do through a dating club is dating. Dating is about human relationships, so money doesn’t solve everything.
I think the key is to dress neatly so you don’t make the woman uncomfortable, reserve a private room at a restaurant, pay the transportation expenses in advance, and focus on having a pleasant conversation without rushing into anything.
According to the women I’ve spoken with, common mistakes men make include acting as though they’re entitled to everything because they’re paying, treating the staff badly, going on endlessly about themselves, choosing nothing but sexual topics, prying into the woman’s private life, and being overly familiar.
When discussing the allowance, I simply ask, “I’d like to have that kind of relationship in a room afterward. Do you have an allowance amount in mind?”
If she says, “I’ll leave it up to you,” I ask, “I usually offer ○. Would that be okay with you?”
If she asks for more than I have in mind, I say, “I usually offer ○, so I’m afraid our expectations don’t match. I’m sorry.”
Some women will say, “Okay, ○ is fine,” right there.
I’ve heard that some women ask, “How much do you usually give?” But saying “usually” like that is kind of rude, isn’t it?(笑)