To the older men who talk about “value for money.”
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Don’t you ever feel guilty about having fun with young women for so little? I’m not trying to pick a fight—I’m genuinely wondering. It’s strange to me that people with so much life experience, who earn several times more than we do, cling so tightly to their money and go out of their way to give us as little as possible. Please explain.
When I look up their companies, I find that they have several employees, and they own some impressive things. When I hear about the overseas trips they take with their families or their stock investments, they seem really successful. But whenever the subject of money comes up, they suddenly say things like,
“I earn less than the other people registered here.”
“I really don’t make much at all.”
They pretend to be modest.
It would be much more refreshing and attractive if they proudly said, “I make good money.” Instead, it’s painfully obvious that they’re pretending not to earn much so they can keep things as cost-effective as possible, and I’m just thinking, “Wow…”
Having fun with young women, not offering a decent allowance, and then not feeling guilty about having unprotected sex is pretty heartless, isn’t it?
If you have any tips for getting offers from generous, respectable supporters while avoiding offers from these “value-for-money” grandpas, please let me know.
I’m Aya, a female member.
Perhaps he became wealthy in the first place because he thinks about value for money. The things he tells you about his stocks, businesses, and spending time with his family probably just sound impressive to you. In reality, he may simply be good at making the most of services for affluent people, or staying at luxury hotels dozens of nights a year and getting points or room upgrades at no extra charge. So, ironically, the wealthier someone is, the more affordably they can enjoy luxurious experiences.
That said, I can understand how you feel. Some people really are excessively stingy. I cut those papas off and only see men who are happy to spend money on me without making me uncomfortable.
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I’m Maezawa from the CEO’s office, and I’ll answer as well.
> The old man who talks about “cost performance”
There’s no respondent named “Cost Performance,” though.
> Don’t you feel guilty about having fun with young women on the cheap?
Whether something is cheap or expensive is relative. What a woman considers cheap, a man may consider expensive.
So even if it looks to women like he’s having fun on the cheap, the man himself doesn’t see it that way.
And if he doesn’t feel that way, I don’t think he feels guilty either.
> Please tell me how to get offers from quality gentlemen and avoid offers from cost-conscious old men.
To receive offers from quality gentlemen, the woman herself needs to be someone those men would like, but there’s really no specific way to control that.
As for avoiding offers from cost-conscious old men, I think you could write in your comment section:
“My desired monthly allowance is ¥1 million.”
That would probably keep them away.
It might be quicker to state the amount per meeting, but that isn’t allowed.
However, it seems acceptable to state your desired monthly amount.
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I’m Tetsu, a male member.
All this talk about “value for money”—what are you even going on about? If you only want to date people who give you money, why not just write in your profile, “I can’t date anyone unless I receive at least ¥〇〇〇,〇〇〇 as an allowance”?
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Seattle.
Even if he could afford to give you any amount, wouldn’t he still only pay what the market dictates?
To break through that, you’d probably have to make him genuinely fall for you.
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I’m Taro, a male member.
Put another way, she seems to think, “Since a young woman is willing to sleep with him, the man should pay a lot of money.” That attitude is incredibly painful to see.
I don’t know how wealthy the man she’s seeing is, but it’s not as though he makes money simply by selling his body—or, to put it less harshly, by setting aside his sense of shame and ethics and enduring a few hours a month. He must have reached that position through a fair amount of effort and luck, along with setbacks and comebacks. The more someone has genuinely gone through that process, the more seriously they think about the value of the money they spend. Living up to that is actually a very high bar, and there’s probably a lot to be gained from it as well. I don’t think the person asking this question understands that.
It’s a mistake to assume that people with a lot of money are automatically generous. Generally speaking, business owners tend to be much stricter with money. Salaried employees and people earning money through licensed professions within an established system tend to be more careless. Those who suddenly made money through an inheritance or by riding a trend are even looser with it. When someone doesn’t fit this pattern—for example, a wealthy founder who is unusually generous (and I don’t mean some Don Juan type)—there’s definitely something going on behind the scenes. You may end up having to deal with an outrageous ego, for instance.
If I were a money-focused girl, I’d at least think about ways to attract and secure gullible customers, as well as improving my own skills. The moment someone asks, “Why are men like this?” she just comes across as an idiot. Complaining about customers on a message board might eventually change society, but I think it would be a lot faster to focus on strategies for making money under the current circumstances rather than trying to reform the world.
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I’m a male member, Pap er Plane.
Ultimately, it comes down to how well both men and women perform.
Even if a woman is Type A—or any other type—if she has enough appeal to captivate a man, she may receive far more than just an adult relationship (intimate), including things beyond measure.
Likewise, if a man is good at pleasing a woman, how fulfilled she feels will be completely different. Whether the allowance is important depends largely on the man and their compatibility. And compatibility isn’t just about an adult relationship (intimate); as a woman, other factors are often even more important.
As for my answer, I don’t feel guilty, and I have no desire to play around with you, questioner.
I hope you’ll stop feeling puzzled or curious about this, and that you’ll develop the qualities and mindset needed to become a wonderful, genuinely gentlemanly man—an ideal supporter.
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I’m Kazu, a male member.
Unfortunately, none of the respondents here are old men who go on about “value for money,” so you probably won’t get an answer from the cost-conscious grandpa himself（笑）
I’ll take a guess:
I don’t think someone who feels guilty about spending little to see young women would talk about “value for money.” If anything, they probably feel no guilt at all and are happier the cheaper they can have fun.
It’s also possible that their fixation on money is precisely what enables them to earn it.
To avoid getting an offer from a cost-conscious grandpa, I think it would help to write in your profile comments that you dislike men who talk about “value for money.”
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