Will I not get any offers?
I have trauma related to adult relationships, so I don’t want to do that even with someone my own age. I’d simply like to hear about their work because I want to become an entrepreneur, and enjoy a slightly luxurious meal now and then. Am I just being selfish and presumptuous?
Maezawa from the CEO’s office here.
> Is there really no demand at all for women who only meet for dinner?
Have you never heard of the AKB marketing model?
People would buy CD after CD just for a one-minute handshake—not even dinner. Some would spend around a million yen just to extend that time.
I think that sort of thing was happening quite routinely.
If you became a woman they wanted to meet that badly, I can imagine fans appearing who wouldn’t mind paying a million yen just to have dinner with you.
So, if you think about it that way, you might be able to achieve your goal by starting with creating the demand.
That said, generally speaking, the women men would be willing to pay a setting fee just to dine with would probably have to be exceptionally attractive, have some rare occupation, or otherwise be someone they normally couldn’t meet.
So if you absolutely refuse H, I think the chances of receiving an offer would become considerably lower.
The issue is simply that this doesn’t align with the goals of men registered with dating clubs. If you tried something like a rental girlfriend service instead, you might receive offers one after another.
There may even be wealthy men there too, though I’m not really sure.
However, even among women registered as Type A, if someone is open to H with a man she genuinely likes, there may be men who think:
“I’ll spend six months trying to win her over.”
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I’m BB7, a male member.
Rather than being selfish or presumptuous, she’s simply unaware of how the world works.
If she says she doesn’t need an allowance—or that she’ll give the man money—then maybe some bored papa (a male supporter) with unusual tastes will make her an offer.
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I’m Takei from the staff.
As for your vision, have you decided how much money you’ll need—and by when—in order to become an entrepreneur?
For example, if you need to earn at least ¥200,000 or ¥500,000 a month, it seems unrealistic when you consider how many people you’d have to meet for dinner alone and how much time you’d need to spend.
If you’d be satisfied with just a few extra tens of thousands of yen a month as spending money, then dinner-only arrangements with papas might be enough.
Another thing to consider is whether a papa would actually benefit from a dinner-only relationship.
Can you appeal to them with your looks? Or with your job or educational background? There are various factors to think about…
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I’m Chikuwa, a male member.
Universe Club has an E-type dating profile option (no transportation allowance required). Since it’s very rare, if you truly don’t need an allowance, choosing that option might attract more papas who want to make an offer out of curiosity.
In your profile, you could write something like: “I can’t have an adult relationship, but I don’t need an allowance either, so I’d be happy just to enjoy a nice meal and good conversation.”
As Kazu-sama added, A-type (allowance provided, dinner only) can be difficult. The club has plenty of beautiful women who are open to an adult relationship, so when you’re compared with them, it’s hard to get someone to meet with you...
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I’m Aya, a female member.
If you’re really registering solely because you want to become an entrepreneur, I think you could show your enthusiasm by saying something like, “I don’t need an allowance” when you sign up.
For example: “¥5,000 is fine for the first dinner only; I won’t need anything after the second meeting.” That would make it seem less sleazy, and I don’t think the men would take it badly either. I hope you get some offers.
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The men are pretty demanding, aren’t they?
They want to know what you can give back and what you can offer!
If you’re a woman whose beauty makes him want to give you an allowance just by looking at you—not necessarily conventionally beautiful, but exactly the type an entrepreneur happens to like—and you’re so enjoyable to talk to that he wants to see you again, then even if he treats you to an expensive meal, lets you listen to his business stories for free, and gives you an allowance, he still can’t wait to meet you again. For a woman like that, you don’t have to provide any particular service—the fact that you’re there is already a service to him.
That said, at the profile stage, all you can really show is your photos, comments, and maybe a video, so hopefully those will lead to an offer.
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I’m Kazu, a male member.
I don’t think there’s absolutely no demand. The offers may be fewer, but I believe there would still be some.
You say you want to become a business owner, but I think running a business is a job where it’s difficult to insist on having things your way unless you have something substantial to back you up. In that sense, business owners and women in dating clubs who rely on an allowance have something in common. Running a business involves constantly deciding whether to compromise for the sake of sales—or, in this case, an allowance.
You mention wanting to hear about his work and be treated to lavish meals, but everything you’ve written is about what you want someone else to do for you. Since this is a dating club, I assume the premise also includes receiving an allowance. You’ve listed everything you expect to receive, but nothing about what you have to offer. That’s simply selfish and presumptuous.
Even if there were an adult relationship (intimate), a relationship won’t last if the woman only thinks about what she can receive.
One more thing:
Of course, some men are happy with dinner only (no intimacy), or even just being able to talk. I’ve felt that way myself.
However, at a dating club, you may also meet women who are open to an adult relationship (intimate) on top of that. If there are two women you’d like to see equally—one open to an adult relationship and the other opposed to it—most men would probably choose the woman who is open to an adult relationship.
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I’m Paper Airplane, a male member.
You are considering an allowance, at least, right?
From the club’s perspective, it seems they’re not really necessary, but they don’t cause any problems by being there, so they’re allowed to exist. Women rarely receive the offers they actually want, while men can’t complain about misleading profile types, so no complaints come in. The clubs simply wash their hands of it, and these cases have been increasing lately.
As a man, I figure a dating club without any adult relationships is out of the question, so I’ll make offers to Type A women too, just to see what happens. I assume there probably aren’t any women who don’t need an allowance, so there probably aren’t any who want no adult relationship either…
Men live only for being with women—or, more precisely, because they want to spend time with women…
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