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Apr 11, 2021 20:24
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The man who recently made me an offer was someone who “wanted an adult relationship (intimate) without an allowance.”
I had heard that there were quite a few men like this on apps, but I was surprised to find one at Universe Club as well.
When I told him that I couldn’t enter into an arrangement without an allowance, he treated me like I was just a money-hungry woman…
He did give me transportation money, but it was less than the club’s stated minimum. (I was told the club’s rule was at least ¥5,000, but…)
Is it difficult for the interviewers to identify men like this during the membership screening process?
He said he had made offers to several other women as well, so I imagine there are many female members who have had unpleasant experiences with him.
By the way, I checked the profile of the man who made me the offer, and he was a blacklisted member…
4 answers
Other
I’m Saito, a columnist♪
As everyone says, responding to feedback is the best way to prevent further trouble, and they do handle things properly.
I write feedback for almost 100% of my encounters as well.
I’ve never come across anyone truly bad, but…
There was one interesting case outside the major cities who:
- Negotiated the allowance during dinner
- Asked for an additional amount before entering the room
- Tried to negotiate another increase right before intimacy
Of course, I paid the full amount and made sure she could leave on good terms.
Other
I’m Taro, a male member.
Of course there are men who try to negotiate no allowance. The dating club’s marketing itself encourages that kind of fantasy, after all. Isn’t that how they secure an inflow of male members? This is an issue not just with dating clubs, but with the broader nightlife and sex industry in general.
Transportation costs are part of the rules, though, so they shouldn’t offer less than the stated amount. Even if you’re told to say, “Those are the rules,” there’s a 100% chance he’ll get defensive and lash out(笑). Still, it’s better to say something. That said, weighing it against your own risk, the best move is probably not to push too hard, let it slide, and quietly report him to the club afterward.
The club is a business, so they do stir things up in various ways. But only a small percentage of male members actually cause trouble. If that starts hurting the reputation of their female members, it will affect recruitment, so when a particular male member keeps generating complaints, the club will eventually decide, “We don’t need this guy anymore.” And that’s how a ban from the club comes about.
Giving feedback to the club is a MUST, but if you understand how this mechanism works, you can enjoy the game of backing these idiot men into a corner without letting it stress you out.
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Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from Shacho-shitsu here—I’ll answer as well.
> I did receive transportation money, but it was below the club’s rules. (I was told the club’s rule was ¥5,000 or more…)
That shouldn’t happen. The man is violating the rules.
However, first of all, I’d like you to say something along the lines of:
“I understand the rule is that I should receive ¥5,000–¥10,000 on the spot. Could I please receive at least ¥5,000?”
I understand that may be difficult to say, but please cooperate. If he still doesn’t pay you, contact the club immediately.
(Please make sure to contact them properly about this incident as well.)
> Is it really that difficult for the interviewer to identify men like this at the time they join?
It is difficult because everyone says the right things when they join. More often than not, we’re surprised later when we see the feedback from the women.
Also, since an arrangement club is a place where men pay for companionship, there’s no doubt that this man has misunderstood how things work. However, actually expelling him from the club would probably be quite difficult.
That said, the comment:
“I was treated like some money-hungry woman…”
could potentially violate the requirement that club members behave like gentlemen. If you had recorded it and submitted the recording, the club’s impression of him would have dropped considerably.
If the club develops a negative impression of him and he repeats this behavior, he may be labeled as someone unsuitable for the club. Depending on how many times it happens, he could even be forced to leave.
Even without a recording, I think it would be helpful to tell the club exactly what he said, without adding emotion.
Something like, “I was hurt by being spoken to that way.”
In any case, why are men who want companionship without paying an allowance even using an arrangement club?
I don’t understand it.
They should go somewhere else.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member.
Unfortunately, I don’t think it’s possible to determine that during the interview.
That’s why there’s a feedback system. Let the club know that she offered transportation money below the club’s minimum. That should lead to a warning, followed by forced expulsion.
As for wanting an adult relationship without an allowance, that isn’t against the rules, but reporting it may still result in a warning.