During my first date, he tried to negotiate down my allowance. When I refused to budge, he said, “Good—you’re a normal girl. If you’d been a pro, I would’ve kept lowering it and lowering it.” I got the terms I wanted, but it left such a bad taste in my mouth that I said, “I’m not a pro—in fact, I’m so inexperienced that I’ll be raising it more and more,” demanded my original amount plus 5, and of course ended things.
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For genuinely inexperienced women like me who aren’t all about the money, what would you say to turn someone down in a situation like this?
I mean, when you suddenly lose interest while discussing the allowance.
Maybe truly inexperienced girls don’t get turned off by things like that.
Could I honestly say, “It hurt to be tested (or to have you suspect I was a pro). I’m sorry”?
I feel tainted now, so I’d like to be healed by some pure energy.
I’m a BB7 male member.
I guess being “tainted” makes someone a professional, huh?
Pure power? (Lol) What does that even mean??
Some people may have found this exchange unpleasant, while for others, the negotiation might have worked out. But since it made you uncomfortable, saying goodbye was the right call either way.
The moment someone is doing PJ, I don’t think they’re pure, inexperienced, or some innocent woman who isn’t all about money anymore. (Lol)
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I’m だて◎ゆめ, a male member.
Negotiating a discount on the first date?
Isn’t the first date like a congratulatory gift? Since it’s a trial period, shouldn’t the allowance actually be higher?
I’d think you negotiate a lower rate after the trial period is over, wouldn’t you?
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It’s not even about trying it—I honestly don’t understand what that guy means. Would a professional lower her price?! If anything, the more professional she is, the less likely she’d be to do that, right? ^^
There are all kinds of men in dating clubs. It’s quite an education.
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Maezawa from the CEO’s Office here as well.
Thank you for your question.
So, you were offended by something the other person said and retaliated, is that right?
Was that the right thing to do? Probably not. Still, since you’re both human, I can understand why you reacted that way.
And I also think things probably wouldn’t work out with someone who rubbed you the wrong way. In that moment, you could have simply said directly, “It really hurt me that you tested me—or suspected I was a professional. I’m sorry.”
Though, I don’t think they were actually testing you. They probably just wanted to pay less.
After failing to negotiate the allowance down, they likely said, out of wounded pride, “Good, you’re just a normal girl. If you’d been a professional, I would’ve kept trying to lower the price.”
But then you have to wonder: what was the point of saying that just to save face?
And in the end, those sour grapes were what caused things not to work out...
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I’m Taro, a male member.
Maybe you lose sight of yourself because you’re always comparing yourself to others.
At least people who are all about the money still have a sense of self, so I think they’re better.
Don’t blame it on others by saying you’ve been tainted or whatever. Some people can’t do anything unless they have someone else to blame.
Oh, you wanted an answer? You’re absolutely right. Keep up the good work. Stay pure, pure♪
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I’m Paper Airplane, a male member.
When you’re inexperienced, both men and women treat you incredibly well. They’re devoted, earnest, and hardworking—in short, both sides are adorable.
And when you’re inexperienced, men offer generous allowances, while women are cute about the allowance they ask for.
I’m no longer inexperienced myself, so the girls receiving cute allowances of 30,000–50,000 yen are already wonderful, good people. Since they’re there, I can’t exactly go beyond that—and honestly, truly wonderful people never do. I’ve found that the people I’m least interested in dating tend to ask for more.
Once I started using Kazu’s line (is it a dirty trick?), I felt a lot more at ease.
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