To be honest, I was pretty intimidated seeing people here say things like, “The allowance was just 50,000 yen.”
I’m starting to feel like I may have come to the wrong place...
I’d understand if people at the Black level were saying that, but even around the Gold level, does 50,000 yen end up being considered “just” 50,000 yen?
Maezawa from the CEO’s office here—I’ll answer as well.
Thanks for your question.
The other answers are so kind… (lol), so I’ll be a bit more blunt.
> “I was honestly shocked that the allowance was only 50,000 yen.”
If you thought that was too much, I think you should give up on papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) here. On apps, it seems you can get by with less, so try your luck there with lower amounts. There’s no point forcing yourself.
What are you going to do if 50,000 yen shocks you? Some women ask for 100,000 or even 150,000 yen.
And if you’re thinking, “Even at the Gold level, it’s only 50,000?” you’re looking down on the other person. In your case, I think things won’t go well unless you offer more than other men.
Women, too, will often say they’d like to meet a handsome, kind, fun man even if his allowance is lower than what other men offer.
But in reality, I think people like that are few and far between. The rest comes down to strategy.
Think about what you can do to make women like you.
If that sounds like too much trouble, offering the allowance the woman is asking for will usually work out—unless there’s something seriously wrong with her.
Face the other person sincerely. If you forget that you’re both human beings, you’ll just come across as pathetic.
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I’m Tetsu, a male member.
When you hear that the allowance is 50,000 yen for your first time, you naturally assume that’s the club standard, right? I’m glad you asked here first. If you made your first offer without knowing anything and the woman said, “Other men pay me at least 70,000,” you might mistakenly think that’s just how things work, whether she was telling the truth or not. (Haha)
As for the allowance, the membership class has nothing to do with it at all. Some women in the Gold class have asked for a minimum of 70,000 yen, while a Platinum member once told me any amount was fine. I suggested 30,000 yen, and she agreed.
People often say you shouldn’t go grocery shopping when you’re hungry because you’ll give in to your appetite and spend more than necessary.
The same applies to club activities. If you go in thinking, “I’m definitely going to have an adult relationship today,” and negotiate the allowance, then become determined to proceed when the woman hesitates, you may end up raising the allowance yourself. For men, it’s even harder to resist sexual desire than hunger. At first, it’s better to meet with some leeway in your mind—thinking, “Even if we don’t end up having an adult relationship today, that’s okay.”
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I’m Flag Maker, a column writer.
Rather than saying it depends on women, I’d say it depends on the person asking. If you make a good effort, some women might even agree to 3. Let’s both do our best, haha.
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I’m Taro, a male member.
Those women do exist, but they’re probably “black” in the sense of being like a black company, or “gold” in the sense that they’re all about the money.
I don’t think it has much to do with the club’s membership tiers.
Since it basically comes down to discussing things one-on-one, I think it’s best to patiently look for a woman whose expectations fit your budget.
From my own experience, about 10% are like that. On the other hand, roughly 30% say, “I’ll leave it up to you.”
Rather than worrying about how to respond when someone names a high allowance, I think it’s more important to seriously consider whether you can properly live up to the trust behind being told, “I’ll leave it up to you.”
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I’m a male member, Paper Airplane.
As mentioned in a recent question, some top-tier “black” girls are genuinely happy with an allowance of just 50,000 yen, while others who are classified as gold or platinum ask for much more.
And when it comes to popular girls who already have plenty of money, some will meet you regardless of the allowance.
Simply put, the more money you offer, the more it can feel like she’s only doing it reluctantly.
So if you can reduce that sense of reluctance, you may be able to avoid having to pay a high amount. I think you should give it a try.
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I’m Kazu, a male member.
You can rest assured that not all women are like that. However, if someone says, “The allowance was only ¥50,000,” there may also be an issue on the man’s side. Of course, it’s also possible that a man posing as a woman is just making things up, or that a woman in difficult circumstances is simply lashing out.
Also, I don’t think a member’s class has anything to do with the allowance amount. The classes are set by the dating club to regulate the number of offers—not to evaluate the woman’s allowance expectations or the nature of your relationship. The staff aren’t all-powerful gods, and I think relationships through a dating club are unlikely to work well if you approach them with a sex-industry mindset.
Personally, I’d understand someone saying “only ¥50,000” if they could earn ¥50,000 a day through their work (though I don’t consider dating-club relationships to be work). There are roughly 240 working days in a year, so that would amount to an annual income of ¥12 million.
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