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I’m a Type B female member. Since registering, I’ve met four male members, and there’s something about how these relationships work that concerns me. I’d love to hear everyone’s opinions.

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(I always enjoy reading the Q&A section, and find it very helpful!) My question is: Is it customary to tell a woman you’d like to continue seeing, “Please go out with me”? I’m currently continuing to see three men. One of them asked about the terms of the arrangement going forward—including the allowance for an adult relationship (intimate) and how often we would meet—on our first date. The other two didn’t mention the terms on the first date, but on our second date they told me, “Please go out with me.” (They still didn’t mention the allowance or anything similar.) The first time I heard this, I thought, “Is this their way of saying they’d like to continue seeing me through the club? How very proper of him to formally ask.” However, neither man mentioned the allowance until we were about to go to a hotel. When I brought it up myself beforehand: ・One of them said, “I’d like you to be with me like a girlfriend, so I can buy you things you want or need instead. What do you think?” (I’m grateful simply to receive an offer, so I agreed to continue seeing him, considering those purchases to be equivalent to an allowance.) ・The other man still didn’t mention the allowance after we entered the room. When I brought it up just before he tried to kiss me, he said, “Oh! Of course. I just joined the club and I’m not used to it yet—I completely forgot. Would an allowance of ◯◯ work?” (Until we discussed the allowance, this man had also concealed that he was married. He asked about my ex-boyfriend and said, “Then I guess I have a chance too.” If I hadn’t brought up the allowance at all, I couldn’t help feeling—perhaps rather cynically—that he may have intended to say he thought we were dating as boyfriend and girlfriend, so there would be no allowance.) Since the only men who said “Please go out with me” were the ones who didn’t smoothly provide an allowance, I think I may become wary of that phrase if I receive offers in the future. I also wanted someone to listen, so I’m sorry this became so long ( ; _ ; ) Male members: Do you say this yourself? Female members: Have you been told this? There may also be something in my own words or actions that made them behave this way, so I’d be grateful to hear the staff’s opinions as well. Thank you in advance.
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Maezawa from the President’s Office here as well. Thank you for your question. > Since the only men I’ve continued seeing after they said, “Please date me,” were the ones who didn’t smoothly pay me my allowance, I feel like I’ll be much more wary of that phrase if I receive another offer in the future. Not “you feel like you will be.” Please be extremely wary. There are a very small number of men who misunderstand how things work. Basically, the club only arranges the first dinner meeting, and anything after that is up to the two of you, so the club can’t strongly intervene with the man. So, what exactly are these men misunderstanding? They’re thinking, “If you want to date a woman without paying her, go somewhere else!” Ah, that’s just my personal opinion. Since the club receives a setup fee and can’t really get involved as long as the rules aren’t being violated, you may think I’m being too harsh. But when someone’s purpose is clearly different, it causes problems for the women too. If they’re looking for a romantic partner, they shouldn’t be registering with this kind of club in the first place. So, if a man wants to date a woman without paying her an allowance, I personally think he should go somewhere else. Just my personal opinion, haha. The very definition under the dating club regulations is: “An arrangement involving compensation.” So if a woman says, “I went to a hotel with him, but he didn’t pay me my allowance,” we will strongly warn the man. (We’ll also ask the woman why she didn’t discuss the terms with him beforehand, so please make sure you bring it up yourself.) For that reason, we’ll warn men when it’s obvious they’re doing this intentionally, and if they repeatedly do it, they may be forcibly banned from the club. That said, women should also be wary of people like this. Make sure you discuss the allowance properly, and only agree when the terms are acceptable to you. You don’t need to worry about whether you’re causing trouble for the club. The only situations where a woman causes trouble for the club are when she uses abusive language, leaves without giving a proper reason, or when an uninvolved third party would hear the story and conclude that the woman was clearly in the wrong. If you simply decline because the terms don’t work for you, I don’t consider that wrong on your part, so you can feel reassured.
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I’m Taro, a male member. Ah, I know exactly what you mean(笑). I was somewhat like that myself(笑笑). B-type relationships are tricky in a lot of ways. From a man’s perspective, a B-type woman is someone who isn’t interested in just anyone, which naturally creates the illusion that there might be some romantic feelings involved. On top of that, club profiles sometimes contain comments that rather deliberately fuel that illusion. There’s also a wide range of women in this category. Some are prepared for something more like C-type but choose B so they can assess the other person first, while others lean more toward A-type and would be completely put off if you brought up the terms of the arrangement. As a man, you need to figure out which type you’re dealing with. Even with the latter type, though, it’s not going to be free, so you just need to smoothly leave the allowance without making a big deal of it. Still, it does take an extra step to understand that this is simply the game’s rule. Sometimes I think clubs should offer training for men specifically targeting A- and B-type women. So, as a woman, you should assert yourself clearly while understanding that this is the situation you’re dealing with. The wording may be a little difficult, though. It’s certainly wrong for men to misunderstand things, but there’s also an unavoidable aspect to it. And since women don’t have an unlimited number of offers either, I think there’s something to be said for correcting the situation when it can be corrected. Truly malicious men should of course be cut off immediately, but when it’s a lovable idiot who deserves some leniency, I’d be very grateful if the woman could take the lead and, with an adult approach, guide him toward an adult relationship (intimate).
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I’m Paper Airplane, a male member who specializes in Type B—more specifically, mostly Type B leaning toward A (I can’t help wanting to make an offer when someone says they lean toward A…). Occasionally Type A, and sometimes Type C as well. This brought back memories of when I had just joined. I don’t say it anymore, but back then, I once told a Type B girl, “Please date me,” intending it to mean continuing our club arrangement. She became extremely wary of me… She said other men had told her the same thing and it had put her in a difficult position. I stopped using that phrase after that. > When I bring it up myself before going to the hotel, Would you say the person asking is more of a Type B who leans toward C? With Type B girls who lean toward C, I bring up the allowance when we decide to go to the hotel on the first day, or I give it to them in advance. With other Type B or Type A girls, we spend time building up to it through enjoyable dates, so the mood naturally develops. In those cases, I bring up the allowance on the way home, after leaving the hotel—or rather than discussing it, I simply hand it over. The Type B girls who lean toward C will mention an amount, but with the other Type B girls, none of them have ever named a specific allowance, whether for an adult relationship or dinner only.
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I’m Kazu, a male member. There’s no way I’d say that, and I don’t think it’s a given, either. This may be biased, but I think the men who make offers to Type B women are dreamy older guys. Because they’re so idealistic, they tend to avoid discussing the allowance—which should be a given in relationships that begin through a dating club—and end up saying something vague like, “Please go out with me.” Personally, I think any male member of a dating club who makes the woman bring up the allowance has failed as a member. No matter how much you try to dress it up, the fact remains that she was introduced to you through the club after you paid a setup fee. So what exactly are you playing dumb about? (lol) Apparently, one Type B woman said that a man later told her, “I thought you were dating me as my girlfriend, so I assumed there wouldn’t be any allowance.” I thought, “Is this guy’s head okay?” Unfortunately, it seems that members like this really do exist, so please be very careful. Also, my own Type C partner told me that there was a time when a man invited her into a room without discussing the allowance and then urged her to take a shower. So it doesn’t seem to happen only to Type B women. I think men who invite you into a room without discussing the allowance should be treated as people to avoid.
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