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I’m the person who asked this question. Thank you all for your answers. To be honest, I expected to receive a lot of responses like Joe’s. I wrote the post prepared for that, so I was relieved to find that everyone’s answers were much kinder than I expected, although “relieved” may sound a little strange. Honestly, I’m 100% at fault in this situation. I wasn’t able to discuss various things properly during the online date, and since it was my first offer and I didn’t know how these things worked, I compromised too much. Maezawa-san suggested that perhaps I was unhappy about having agreed in advance to be intimate, but more than anything, the frequent messages have been overwhelmingly burdensome for me. But I’m the one who allowed that to happen. Even though this is completely my own fault, I feel that if I refuse now, I deserve to be told, “Are you taking me for a fool? Are you stupid? Are you trash?” I’ve completed both the online and in-person first meetings, and I honestly felt that a lot of things were difficult to convey online. In person, you can get a general sense of someone, but perhaps one of the things bothering me is the idea of going straight to a hotel on the next date when I still don’t know their atmosphere and other details because we’ve only interacted through a screen. So, as several people advised in their answers, I’ll first clearly explain that frequent contact is a burden for me, and ask whether we can make the first date lunch or something similar rather than going to a hotel. I hadn’t thought things through that far on my own, so everyone’s answers were very helpful. And after reading Joe’s response, I realized deep down that it was a perfectly natural reaction and that I had been incredibly full of myself. Just to add one thing: the reason I mentioned the offer fee was that I started to wonder whether I was being treated like someone using an adult entertainment service, since our future dates might involve going straight to a hotel without even having a meal, being intimate, and then immediately parting ways—and because the lower offer fee for online dates seemed to reinforce that impression. That said, even if I felt that way, bringing up the fee and saying I could refuse because it was too low would truly have been a foolish thing to do. Joe-san, thank you for telling me so frankly. And to all the other respondents, thank you so much for offering various suggestions on what I could do, despite the fact that I asked such a foolish question. This isn’t really a question. I simply wanted to express my gratitude to everyone who took the time to answer, so if the respondents are able to see this, there’s no need to publish it. As one request, I’d be happy if you could add a feature that allows people who ask questions to thank those who answer them—something like Yahoo! Chiebukuro. Of course, that might make it difficult to remain completely anonymous.
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前澤(スタッフ)
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🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
Maezawa from the President’s Office here, too. The thing to keep in mind is that if you go from: “We agreed to go to a hotel” → “Let’s just have a meal” the man may feel disappointed, and in some cases he may even say that this wasn’t what you agreed to. However, by taking one step in between: “We agreed to go to a hotel” → “I’m thinking maybe we should stop seeing each other” (framed as asking for advice) he may respond with something like, “What did I do wrong? If there’s anything I can improve, I will.” If that happens, you can say something along the lines of: “Agreeing to go to a hotel has started to feel like a burden. I’m regretting agreeing to go to a hotel right away with someone I’ve never even met. The frequent messages have also been stressful…” Then explain that you would prefer to keep messages limited to arranging when to meet, and that you’d rather enjoy yourselves more when you’re actually together. You could also say: “Would it be okay if we started with a dinner date and decided after that?” If you approach it this way, he may not take it too badly. (Some men may still lose interest, but in that case, at least you won’t have had to turn him down yourself.) P.S. Wait—was this all setting the stage for a reverse offer to Joe? If so, that’s quite a strategy.
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🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Papercraft, a male member. Depending on how you look at it, receiving frequent messages is better than not hearing from him at all—it could also mean that he genuinely likes you. Likewise, suggesting a hotel even for a short time may be his way of showing that he wants to give you an allowance. He may also be trying to communicate more before meeting at the hotel. When expressing your feelings, I think it would be best to consider both sides—how the other person might feel—before saying anything.
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🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Flagmaker, a column writer. It’s natural to feel all kinds of anxiety about your first offer. I think that’s completely normal. If I could, I’d tell the man, “Don’t rush her!※” Please go easy on her. That said, joining a dating club is, in a sense, like bravely taking your first step into an unexplored jungle and opening up new territory. The path ahead may be shrouded in darkness, but even with some anxiety, there are times when it’s important to take that first step. And telling your partner what you want is another form of “the courage to take a step forward.※” I’m sure it can lead to something from there. ※Quote: Tetsuya Naito, New Japan Pro-Wrestling Good luck.
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