Tips Sep 17, 2025 21:33

After seven years of support, my papa’s genuine romantic feelings escalated to the point of being almost criminal, and I became genuinely terrified, so I ended things.

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He would lie in wait for hours at my nearest station and send me huge numbers of LINE messages every day. If I didn’t reply not only about scheduling but also to casual messages, he would question me, get angry, and sulk, asking things like, “Are you with your boyfriend?” He also wanted to control me excessively. Honestly, the emotional burden became far greater than the allowance. I was grateful to him and tried to hold on until I reached my limit, but I was on the verge of breaking down mentally, so I ended things. On top of that, his demands were exhausting. We had to take an overnight trip once every three months. That was the hardest part. Every time, I went along with him on overnight trips to Tokyo, forcing myself to endure it while feeling like I could cry. Being tied up for 24 hours was painful, even just to think about afterward. He was completely in love with me, constantly saying things like, “I love you, I love you. Just look at me. I want to marry you.” Was ending things the right decision? I’ve been fortunate enough to meet various people, but honestly, the only arrangements that last are with men who are extremely mentally demanding. The easygoing gentlemen aren’t genuinely in love, and they seem to have other partners as well, so after meeting a few times, they lose interest and things naturally end. I’d like to ask everyone here: What do you think of this papa? Even though I was the one receiving support, it was so difficult that I became mentally unwell. And honestly, the support itself wasn’t anything special. He would occasionally give me inexpensive clothes as gifts—Uniqlo—and we would eat at chain restaurants before going to a cheap love hotel. He never once gave me anything from a luxury brand. The allowance was average, but we met several times a month.
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だて◎ゆめ
👨 Male Universe member
Hmm… Well, I did feel that papa (a male supporter) might have gotten a little too close. In my case, we’ve continued seeing each other within the limits of what I can tolerate(笑). I’m not particularly eager to go shopping or out to eat, and the woman I’m seeing isn’t very proactive either, since she’s worried about being recognized. We keep things discreet, seeing each other quietly and trying not to stand out around town. That seems to suit us best.
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Fuu
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
You really put up with that for seven years. You should’ve turned him down and ended things when he first asked you to stay over. Maybe putting up with too much isn’t a good thing. You’re basically a bad-papa factory. Maybe you’re doing too much and giving too much. If papas don’t stick around, maybe there’s something wrong with the adult relationship—or maybe you’re not appealing enough. If a papa is seeing multiple papa-katsu women, he’ll compare you with the others and go with the one he enjoys more.
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ジョー・ルビコン
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🏅 手コキ評論家
入会して8年。いまだ彷徨中です
Age: 60s 👨 Male Universe member
I don’t have any particular thoughts about the questioner’s papa (a male supporter). But I do have quite a few thoughts about the questioner, who says it’s gotten to the point of making them mentally unwell. I think they’re probably already struggling. That’s all.
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負け男
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
It’s been a while since we’ve had such a good question. > I’ve connected with all kinds of people, but honestly, the only ones who stick around are those with an extremely high emotional burden. > The easygoing gentlemen aren’t seriously in love with me, and they seem to have other partners too, so after meeting a few times, they lose interest and things naturally fizzle out. This ↑ is exactly it. I know full well that women tend to want to keep some distance from their papas, so I keep my distance from them as well. But when I do that, I can’t really get invested either, so basically, I sleep with them once and that’s the end of it. Having H a second time is genuinely rare, which is why I’ve ended up with nearly 200 offers through Universe Club. The woman I slept with last week was truly beautiful—I’d say her looks scored over 70—but I’m really struggling with whether to have H with her a second time. By contrast, the Type A woman in her teens I’m currently most invested in got incredibly close from the very beginning, and she came to my place on our second date. Since she’s Type A, we haven’t even held hands, but I really enjoy and appreciate this sense of closeness. It creates a kind of pseudo-romance, and she instantly became my top monthly arrangement. My ideal situation is: - Even if I fall seriously for a woman, I keep an appropriate distance. - The woman closes the distance with me, even though I’m maintaining an appropriate distance from her. ★ Mack That’s impressive. I have nothing to say in response. I agree about the two-year timeframe. Once something continues for around two years, you gradually start to develop feelings. I don’t know how she feels, though. The part about “an appropriate distance” made me laugh(笑) You’re absolutely right(笑)
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横断歩道
🏅 デート開拓者
ユニバース5年目。女性とはいろいろな商業施設に行ってデートしています。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
If the terms don’t work for you, you should let him go sooner rather than later. It’s impressive that you managed to keep it going for seven years. I have mixed feelings about your papa (a male supporter) too, but making sure they don’t genuinely fall for you is also part of the skill.
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前澤(スタッフ)
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🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
Even if someone asks, “What did you think after we parted ways?”… This isn’t a place for small talk. At first glance, it looks like a question because it has a question mark, but it really just comes across as casual conversation.
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マックさん
🏅 日没を遅らせる唯一の方法は日没に向かって走り続けることだ
名古屋支店登録で、男性会員としての登録名もマックさんです。コラム多数書いてますのでよろしければご参照ください。20代の細身女性が好みで逆オファーには前向きです。経験無いまたは少ない方大歓迎。
Age: 60s 👨 Male Universe member
> What do you think of this papa? They write “comparable to a crime,” but I don’t think it actually is a crime. Isn’t “comparable” being used incorrectly? Also, they say “terrified to my core,” but “disgusted to my core” seems more fitting. I sometimes write things like, “One-sided romantic feelings can be a form of psychological violence toward someone who doesn’t feel the same way—especially a woman.” But in this question, “comparable to a crime” makes the guy seem unfairly accused. It’s like an old-fashioned office worker being denounced by a young female employee for sexual harassment. For that matter, was this really a case of genuine romantic feelings? The questioner’s disgust seems so intense that it feels like they simply labeled a papa immersed in a pseudo-romantic relationship as a guy who had genuinely fallen in love. The reason I get that impression is the phrase “comparable to a crime.” We should be careful with our wording. “On the verge of mentally breaking down” sounds odd too. If he was really going to break down, he probably wouldn’t have held out for seven years. And since he didn’t actually break down, it’s unclear whether he was ever “on the verge” of it in the first place. Writing becomes more convincing when you calmly stick to the facts. Clumsy exaggeration has the opposite effect. > To Mr. Loser It’s not my ideal, but this is basically my routine: - I absolutely never genuinely fall in love with women. I don’t think I’ve ever been in love in my life. It’s not that I maintain an appropriate distance—insertion is what I consider the “appropriate distance.” - Sometimes it seems as though a woman is trying to close the emotional distance with me while I’m at that “appropriate distance” (that is, while we’re having sex), but I’m not interested. However, if we continue maintaining that “appropriate distance,” I naturally start to develop affection for her and become more like a paternal protector. I actually like that kind of emotional distance. So, in my case, I’ll just have sex with her casually at first, and if things continue somehow, the relationship only really begins around the second year. Rereading this, don’t I sound pretty manly? lol You can’t really understand a woman’s feelings—or anyone else’s, for that matter—and she might change her mind tomorrow. Don’t agonize over something so uncertain. If you like a woman, just sleep with her for now. Whether you win her over without money or spend money on her doesn’t make much difference. I guess it takes about two years before you can finally start to see what’s beneath the surface of someone’s feelings. Even then, when it’s time to cut things off, I do it cleanly. But cutting off someone like that feels like severing my own affection, a part of myself, so naturally it hurts to some extent. “Whether you like me or not is irrelevant. I’m sleeping with you because I like you. So stop arguing and just spread your legs.” Put simply, that’s my attitude. To get back to the questioner’s situation, I don’t know whether I’m a gentleman, but even without being a papa who genuinely falls in love, it’s perfectly normal for things to continue for years with someone you see four times a month. > The easygoing gentlemen aren’t genuinely in love, and they seem to have other partners too, so after meeting a few times, they get bored and things naturally end. That’s probably a question of financial means. I have more than a dozen women I meet and have sex with at least four times a month. Maybe the questioner simply hasn’t met a papa like that, hasn’t been someone he took a liking to, or perhaps she’s been avoiding them herself. Every now and then, there’s a girl who hears that I have several monthly arrangements and jumps to the conclusion, “Then there’s no room for me to get involved.”
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